Strange the Sears around here gave me a list of websites and said that they will only lower prices if they cheaper on these sites. What really bites is that moreaudiovideo.com is not one of them. As for the Onkyo I like it, the Onkyo has a lot more power than my Kenwood AR404. But I'm taking the Onkyo back so I can have some more money to put towards a better HT receiver. You see I just figured out that I don't need the Onkyo because I got a Fisher X-100 integrated tube amp for free. I only have to spend 50 to 100 bucks to get some tubes for it and it will like brand new, and then I will use the Fisher for my 2channel setup. By the way I was thinking of getting the Outlaw 1050 but how about that Yamaha? How does it measure up against the Outlaw?