Update, I guess I didn't try enough permutations. The culprit is the 8300 via DVI. The video is there for a few seconds, then the video blanks, but not before I see the HDCP warning screen flash. Disconnected the power to the 8300 and unplugged the HDMI, reboot, then with analog component, the analog sources are also there and present.

What is weird is that when I display the composite on a small external lcd (not my main 42" panel other composite input), the signal is there and says present. I am guessing I need to play around some more with the set up.