Your enthusiasm is admirable here, Wayne, but your combative approach is misplaced.

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Originally posted by Wayne Charlton:
Once again, Greg, you don’t have your facts straight. I can (and just did) empirically [b]prove my points with real, hard, verifiable, provable FACTS. You can’t, or at least, up to the present, haven’t.

Is it, perhaps, that you are, for what ever reason, unconcerned with reality, or that, again, for what ever reason, you are never wrong? As a personal favor, (even though you may feel I am undeserving) think about that. Please.
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This doesn't need to be personal Wayne, and your opinion is no more valid simply because you have read and posted numerous THX press releases. Do not assume you know me at all from reading my posts. And more succinctly, do not put words in my mouth/keyboard - if I didn't write it, do not accuse me of it - unless you yourself are "unconcerned with reality."

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Again, your assumption is that THX certification ever [b]DID “preclude crap”. The fact is, in 1990, at the start, THX certification only attracted manufacturers of the “High-End”, as the “High-End” manufacturers were the only ones that could, at the time, affordabley implement the specifications! And again, scan the certification criteria lists for where “crap” is a parameter whereby certification suitability is judged. Wait. Let me save you some time. DON’T BOTHER, ‘CAUSE IT AIN’T THERE!!
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Wayne, for someone who "cannot... will not tolerate...to be dismissed out of hand," you can certainly dish out. If THX isn't a quality standard, then why do they claim, (and I quote from your quoted PR) "The company’s certification programs and technologies deliver the ultimate entertainment experience, providing superior playback of movies, music and games"? Are "superior" and "ultimate" no longer indicative of a quality standard, but instead now indicative of, as you say, "a 'standard of minimum performance.'"?

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As to the first part of your second sentence, and your stated “opinion”; (and, make no mistake, personal [b]opinion is the only thing you’ve had to argue with the entire course of this thread)[/b]
Again, you assume my "opinion" is all I have. How many THX Ultra products do I need in my home, or how many THX specs do I need to read, to have a valid opinion in your eyes?

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As to the second part of your second sentence; Once again, you proceed from a false assumption. Be so kind as to provide the source of the THX statement of “purpose” that reads “is to ensure a quality experience for the discerning consumer”. In all the years I have followed the Home THX program, [b]never have I read those words together in any issued statement. So please, be so kind. [/b]
Again, because I don't quote from a press release, I'm wrong. Refer to above THX quote about quality.

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Further, exactly how “[b]discerning” can Mr. or Mrs. “Consumer” be if they purchase an audio product without first listening to it, basing their decision soley on some fancy “badge” stenciled on the front of the unit? If this is the case, it would appear that Mr. or Mrs. “Consumer” weren’t really all that “ discerning”, after all, in which case... why should it matter?
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People in this forum do just that based upon the Outlaw name. Are we all, therefore, not discerning? To answer your question, if the THX badge wasn't perceived as a quality standard, then why would any company ever pay the fee to have it on a budget-level receiver? Do you think most consumers at that level would look for THX at all if it wasn't perceived that way?
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