RAF, you have a high end Denon, and I didn't remember you ever mentioning that the 950's face is far more flimsy than your Denon? Was that irellevant to you, or do you think I'm wrong about the comparsion?
azryan,
Yes, the buttons on the Denon have a "less flimsy feel" than those on the 950, but I don't consider the 950 buttons as being something bad enough to even mention. There are a couple of factors in play here. For one thing, I hardly ever use the buttons on a unit once my Pronto is set up. Also, the fact that the Outlaw buttons react to a slighly lesser push might be considered a plus by some. Another thing to remember is that the majority of the buttons on the Denon 5700 are, for the most part, hidden behind that large swinging door. Not only would that protect them from prying hands but that also makes them a little harder to use/see/whatever without the use of a flashlight under certain lighting conditions.
To me that seems like one of the little things you guys could've mentioned in between the praise of the 950's sound -if you were wondering why some people took some of the beta reviews with a grain of salt.
Some people are losing sight of the purpose of the beta tests. They were done to shake down the product, not for the benefit of onlookers. At no time were the remarks made to serve as a "review" (I've stated this several times and people still choose to misconstrue this.) The fact that the beta test was done so openly on the Internet was, at least to me, very rare in the annuls of beta testing and, unfortunately, because of the way some people tried to subvert the process, probably won't be happening so openly in the future. Perhaps the Outlaws, despite whatever publicity benefits they enjoyed from all this, now realize that the open process was more trouble than it was worth. Too many people, as you did, made the beta tests into something that they definitely were not - probably a bit out of frustration because of the delays. I hope that clears this situation up.
The mode we are in
now, with actual owners producing their own reviews (with professional reviews to follow) is an entirely different matter and the purpose of this thread.
Now is the time that people start to talk about whatever aspect of the 950 interests them the most - everything from the sound it produces to the adequacy or inadequacy of the remote. Reviews will continue to come in and, of course, I would assume that there would be negatives along with the positives. It would be hard to imagine
any product being infallible and the 950 certainly doesn't fall into that category. There were many, many e-mails and discussions during the beta testing process that never saw the light of day and that's totally appropriate because during the beta
testing process several items were changed and were not in the final product. Talking about features that had been totally changed or that were no longer in the 950 would have just become grist for the mill.
I hope you understand this and that this thread will stay on target talking about 950 features and performance. In fact, since I've been taking up bandwidth here I'm going to start a new thread to discuss the 950 beta test with anyone who cares to do that. Reviews and features here. Beta test discussions, there.
O.K.?
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RAF My HT (latest update 04/17/02) Now includes Outlaw 950 and Outlaw 755 [This message has been edited by Robert A Fowkes (edited May 07, 2002).]