Hey thanks for all the great replies.
Stott: thanks for the chart link, but it is not up to date in regards to the 49TX or the 5803s new specs.
Jeff: The denon will be $4300 retail, but as current prices for the AVR-5800 are discounted ~35% the 5803 probably will be able to be had for around $3000. The ELite is $4200, but is easily found for $2500 so rpice difference is not that great on the three I am considering.

Gonk: Everything you said makes sense, the most so far. Thanks. an MC-1 s like $2000 used at the best so it is more than double the 950. Getting used amps for the 950 sounds like a smart money saving idea, but if I am going to buy a new 950, for the great price and the minor discount for buying both, the 770 will probably be what I do since warrenty and support will be easy!
Thank you everyone, it is sometimes good to hear things from others even if you have already thought about because it lets you know your not a moron and you are not jaded by desire to have SOMETHING, especially the newest, fastest, loudest with the most bells and whistles!
Thanks, Mike