OK, I must reply to this, last weekend I went looking at all the stereo shops in Atlanta that sells the Onkyo, Yahama, Denon, and Pioneer, what I found was lightweight, faint sounding componets with alot of plastic. So I ordered the 1050 the other day. I just was not impressed with all there functions, I want good clean sound. I am use to the Carver receivers, the sound is outstanding to me. I cant' afford the Sunfire so I chose to try the Outlaw, how can you go wrong if get 30 return policy.