My prior amp, a Creek 4240 integrated, did not have bass and treble controls. The belief is that the amp should just produce a flat output, which the Creek certainly does.

On lesser amps, such as the Outlaw, it is usually included because even if the amp is flat, the other components may not be. Don't take this as a criticism of the Outlaw though. It is a fine receiver for the money.

[This message has been edited by zacster (edited April 28, 2002).]