I know this has been hashed out many, many times but I can't help but state it: For the vast majority of folks I don't think these new complex advanced features are necessary. I bet if we did a poll of Outlaw's customers (different from folks in the Saloon) most folks have 5.1 or 7.1 systems and all they want is excellent audio, reliability, proven room correction, compatibility with new TV technology and easier connectivity to sources via HDMI. IMO Outlaw is getting wrapped around the axle trying to accommodate features that will be used by a select few customers and they will miss the window once again. It is deja vu all over again!