One more thing, renov8r, is it your position that this receiver from Denon (made by the same folks that manufacture the Marantz receivers being sold by Outlaw for use as pre-pros with their amps) are somehow "inferior" products? It sure appears that way. If that's the case, why would Outlaw market them to their customers? Are those just Miatas in Bugatti clothing too? smile

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