Ive had the set to three techs now and thier answer is a little hard to take. It seems my best option they say is just to throw it away. Its got a main board problem. Getting it and the labor would run me within 50-60 dollars of what a new set would cost. Its hard to throw a 600 dollar tv away after only four years. And thats another thing, they said I was "lucky" that it lasted that long. He said most LCD's will break within 3 years. No matter the brand. I find this hard to belive. He said thier claims that it will last 20 years are more or less a lie. He said unless its in warranty just throw them away.They were not selling tv's so I couldnt fiqure out what thier angle might be but Im bummed out right now.