Yeah, I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in the price of the 886. Onkyo must be close to at least announcing a replacement if they haven't already, so we'd be paying a premium for something that's almost reached the end of it's life cycle which some of us would really just be using as a hold over.

Shop Onkyo has not had the 886 refurbs on their site for a week or so. I wonder if this is part of the reason.