Tried something new this morning, set my fronts to small, and bass out to just sub and crossover to 60 and and sub distance in reciever from the default setting of 10 feet to 8 feet made a big difference just wanted to let people know so they have other thing to try and thanks so much for your help guys also shut off crossover in sms I got so excited that i wasn't thinking
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Outlaw 990/7125,Denon 2910,Toshiba A3, Klipsch RF35,RC35,RS35,RW12,SMS-1