What gives you that idea? I have already auditioned two subs from other sites, and have already lost over $150 on shipping (original and return). I really have no choice, as there is only one audio dealer here, and the only subs he carries are Paradigm at FULL retail. I don't think they sound good enough to justify their price.

Ordered an Energy s12.3 sub this morning, all reviews I have read are favorable, and according to Tom Nousaine's sub test, it goes lower, and has more output than either of the other subs mentioned in this thread.