hsuresearch.com lists the sub for $699, then $50 for shipping. which is $749.

Outlaw lists at $579, plus what you say is $70 for shipping is $649 (who knows if this is correct since your other price is from where?).

you MUST be getting that price from somewhere other than their website??? must be...

i wasnt postulating that the lfm1 was better, i was just asking why you wouldnt get what you THOUGHT was the best sub seeing as you said they were the same price...

using your logic against plexiglass, any shiny finish is bad. i guess the vtf3 is available matted, but personally i enjoy the look of black laquer with a mirror finish. black matte is for old hot rods and nothing else.

i dont know that there is anything left to discuss on this topic. good luck either way you go.