not me, im not argumentative... :-) no doubt the lfm is a good sub for its price. and if there was nothing priced above it, then it would be the best. however there is, and its not.

i think velodynes value is surpassed in their lower end models by companies such as svs, outlaw, etc. which have a different process of selling (i.e. internet direct) and can afford to sell their products directly and make more money per sub, while still having a lower cost to the consumer.

having said that, i doubt there are very many if any (i havent heard any in 20 years) better than velodynes top models at their price range let alone anything anywhere near their price. i doubt that there is any sub available better than the 1812.

you have to compare apples to apples to even compare anything at all.

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