laugh wink Than you are one of the lucky ones JulCat. When I bought my Adcom set up in the early/mid 90's, I looked at NAD and just was not impressed with the quality or sound. Infact, there were many audio stores pulling the equipment, mainly amplifiers and integrated amplifiers, because of quality control problems at the time. I actually have heard good things about their CD and DVD players, when they work. :rolleyes: laugh wink lol (j/k)