Thanks Cburbs and Gonk. I did buy the AR11's and AR17's from Accessoriesforless.com and I've allready set them up. Other then the fact that one of them must have taken a hit during shipping and disconnected the tweeter terminal I think it was a wise buy. Nice build quality and very nice sound even though they aren't broken in yet. As for the 1050 ....wow this replaced a Sony reciever that I bought in 92. Things have sure changed in the last 10 yrs, The 1050 is unbelivable. I still need to get a couple of centers and a Sub; which brings me to another question I'll probably order AR centers for a full matched set but I have read good things about the Sony SA-WM40
http://www.cheaphometheater.com/subs.htm
Any input on this sub?