Did I read that right "2. Onkyo and Denon amongst others released "3 chip," solutions built for them by SN. During this process SN realized the cheating was actually detrimental to the codec." Sherwood Newcastle (Eastech or Etronics I think) builds for Onkyo and Denon? Also I thought Onkyo and Denon were using a Texas Instrument Chip (Not that I profess to know that much about chipsets!)