The 705, 805, 875, and 905 are four of the receivers I was thinking of with my first statement ("get a receiver with pre-amp outputs and HDMI v1.3 support"); there are some Denons available now that also fall into that category, I beleive. My main point was that the PR-SC885P and its cousin the Integra 9.8 are the only processors I've heard about that are v1.3. There are a few HDMI v1.1 processors available, but they are fairly well removed from Outlaw's price range.