to charlie, just re-read your statement above. well, i am an audio/video 'enghaneer' and play one on tv,and just gotta say, most of them don't know half of what you know. am retiring in two weeks but youse guys keep me young...again. i helped mitso...whatever...develope their new digital format...well, not the language...the real estate. that little button at the front of a digital panasonic camera...selects frame rate, i did that! wow! we still didn't buy their cameras (they were gonna sue us). and why do we use sony? i hope no one reads this who knows me. cause...it was in the 'best interest' to stay with sony! i almost said why...and cannot in this world of suits. oh yeh, the sony's gggaa-rate! to bad tandberg doesn't make digital cameras (they probably do, i'm not allowed to find out).
postscripe: i know i'm in the south, SH, but is that the 'real' bob lind (with only one i)?

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t higg