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#97780 - 02/14/18 04:57 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: Outlaw Jim]
NRBQLou Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 122
Loc: Denver, CO USA
Thanks Outlaw Jim! Guess I'll wait until Monoprice comes up with one! smile
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Sony XBR65X850E
Oppo BDP-83, Sony UBP-X800
Roku Streaming Stick +
Music Hall mm5.1 table, Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge, Cambridge Audio 640P Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject Speed Box
Belkin Pure AV Power Conditioner
Audioquest Type 8 speaker cable, Monoprice speaker Cable
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#97781 - 02/14/18 06:56 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: EEman]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Check out this link to see the Non-Outlaw version.
http://www.transformativeengineering.com/project/hds-42avr/
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97786 - 02/15/18 11:55 AM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: Outlaw Jim]
olgoat Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 09/27/13
Posts: 3
Loc: N/W Chicago
You may not know the answer to this but looking at some of the info for EDID, I am confused what the static EDID in tthe HDS-42AVR buys you.

All the video processing is between the source components and the switch and the switch and the TV. The only video flow between the 975 and the TV is it OSD.

Is this more to do with audio capabilities between the source devices and the switch that are passed off to the 975?

Just curious if you know.

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#97787 - 02/15/18 01:45 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: olgoat]
Outlaw Jim Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 02/25/13
Posts: 20
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By olgoat
You may not know the answer to this but looking at some of the info for EDID, I am confused what the static EDID in tthe HDS-42AVR buys you.

All the video processing is between the source components and the switch and the switch and the TV. The only video flow between the 975 and the TV is it OSD.

Is this more to do with audio capabilities between the source devices and the switch that are passed off to the 975?

Just curious if you know.
It is exactly to do with the audio connection to the 975 from the HDS-42.

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#97788 - 02/15/18 03:54 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: XenonMan]
NRBQLou Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 122
Loc: Denver, CO USA
Thanks, I've seen that and even corresponded with Sean at Transformative. Just trying to figure out why the "generic" unit goes for $449 or so but the Outlaw version is $179. Is someone taking a bath on this unit or is it way overpriced for non-Outlaw usage?
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Integra DRX 3.1, Outlaw 5000
Fronts - Golden Ear Triton 2, Center - Martin Logan Motion 8, Surround L/R - Energy Audissey A5+2,
Sony XBR65X850E
Oppo BDP-83, Sony UBP-X800
Roku Streaming Stick +
Music Hall mm5.1 table, Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge, Cambridge Audio 640P Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject Speed Box
Belkin Pure AV Power Conditioner
Audioquest Type 8 speaker cable, Monoprice speaker Cable
Mostly Monoprice interconnects

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#97793 - 02/16/18 07:13 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: EEman]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
It appears the Outlaw version will only work with the 975 vice the Transformative version works with all sorts of devices.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97794 - 02/17/18 02:49 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: XenonMan]
NRBQLou Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 122
Loc: Denver, CO USA
That's my understanding as well. Still doesn't quite explain a price difference of around 150% more (off the top of my head) for the non-Outlaw unit, unless there is some magic in the way more expensive unit that I'm missing.
_________________________
Integra DRX 3.1, Outlaw 5000
Fronts - Golden Ear Triton 2, Center - Martin Logan Motion 8, Surround L/R - Energy Audissey A5+2,
Sony XBR65X850E
Oppo BDP-83, Sony UBP-X800
Roku Streaming Stick +
Music Hall mm5.1 table, Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge, Cambridge Audio 640P Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject Speed Box
Belkin Pure AV Power Conditioner
Audioquest Type 8 speaker cable, Monoprice speaker Cable
Mostly Monoprice interconnects

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#97795 - 02/17/18 06:03 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: EEman]
XenonMan Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
The product page description could use a little tweaking to specifically say that the device does not work with non-Outlaw processors. The way it reads it can be misconstrued that while it is specifically geared towards the 975 it isn't exclusive.

Transformative Engineering has introduced an HDMI switcher that allows older processors to integrate into a 4K/UHD system. Transformative and Outlaw paired up to release an Outlaw edition of the HDS-42AVR that works with the Model 975 only to allow four 4K/UHD inputs!
_________________________
Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97802 - 02/19/18 03:00 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: NRBQLou]
Owl's_Warder Offline
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Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
Originally Posted By NRBQLou
That's my understanding as well. Still doesn't quite explain a price difference of around 150% more (off the top of my head) for the non-Outlaw unit, unless there is some magic in the way more expensive unit that I'm missing.


Because the Outlaw version is limited in scope. It ONLY works with the 975 so it costs less as it has less functionality in the larger marketplace.

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#97809 - 02/20/18 12:55 PM Re: HDS-42AVR Available [Re: Owl's_Warder]
NRBQLou Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 122
Loc: Denver, CO USA
Respectfully, still not buying into that as an explanation for such a HUGE price difference. Not looking for an argument, just my opinion. Just for fun, here's a "switch" I can get for $449 that does one or two other things as well (yes, I know it's a refurb, but still...).
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-...receiver/1.html
I think I may have been wrong once or twice in my life, so I'll go ahead and assume this might be the third time. ;-)
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Integra DRX 3.1, Outlaw 5000
Fronts - Golden Ear Triton 2, Center - Martin Logan Motion 8, Surround L/R - Energy Audissey A5+2,
Sony XBR65X850E
Oppo BDP-83, Sony UBP-X800
Roku Streaming Stick +
Music Hall mm5.1 table, Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge, Cambridge Audio 640P Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject Speed Box
Belkin Pure AV Power Conditioner
Audioquest Type 8 speaker cable, Monoprice speaker Cable
Mostly Monoprice interconnects

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