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#98228 - 11/26/18 10:28 PM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: kiwiaudio]
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The 976 triggers are 5VDC. If some or all your amps rely upon a 12V trigger you’ll hafta get creative. I rely on a 12V automotive type relay to trigger Furman MP-20s to turn on & turn off my gear.

If one trigger were 5V, the other 12V...

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#98229 - 11/27/18 10:35 AM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: NASANut]
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Originally Posted By NASANut
Well, I heard back from Outlaw regarding the possibility of a future update to allow custom input names.

Unfortunately, they said they have no plans to make such an upgrade. :-(
maybe provide a menu w/say a dozen choices for naming? Gotta be le$$ than fancy/schmancy & better than no choice at all.

Sound side note: I LOVE the 975 SQ compared to the Rotel, that allowed renaming inputs, among other bells etc, it replaced. So I’ll put up with that.

Also the 5V triggers won’t activate a 12V relay - darn!

Tony

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#98238 - 12/08/18 09:00 PM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: 975 destroyer]
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Originally Posted By 975 destroyer
Originally Posted By arbitrageur
Regarding channel trim levels - viewing and changing them on the fly is documented on page 37 of the owners manual...
I read this. Doesn’t sound as transparent as the 975 - a feature I LOVED! My 976 is past due.
Since receiving my 976 & a 5V relay I’ve learned tweaking trim levels on the fly, while it requires an add’l keystroke, is more user friendly than the 975!


Edited by 975 destroyer (12/08/18 09:27 PM)

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#98239 - 12/08/18 09:18 PM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: Outlaw Ben]
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Originally Posted By Outlaw Ben
Originally Posted By 975 destroyer
Also I replied on pages 5&6 about 975/976 output or “drive as I like to call it. Unfortunately I have yet to receive* an explanation why my Rotel or previous processors “were LOUDER[b]before[/b] max volume than the 975 AT mmax volume. And believe me, I have 10-20X power “on tap” today than my pre-975 days.
* I called CS about this. Their answer amounted to a difference in the “type” of VC. That STILL didn’t explain why the 975 didn’t “crank” the same.

Thnx, Tony


Tony, I had spoken to you about this. We also discussed the difference in input gain vs output voltage and how a relative volume control works compared to an absolute control...
Ben, I apologize I did not hear you or the other gent say Rotel’s volume type had up to 20dB* of Gain* over Outlaw’s type. To be fair, if somebody, ANYBODY, had simply said just that* I’d been satisfied.


Edited by 975 destroyer (12/08/18 09:28 PM)

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#98245 - 12/11/18 05:35 PM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: kiwiaudio]
Outlaw Ben Offline

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Registered: 10/31/13
Posts: 241
Input gain has nothing to do with the type of volume control.

Varying types of volume controls is why you can't accurately compare them apples to apples, unless both are log based controls measured in dBFS at max output (and this may or may not be doable in a real world scenario without damaging equipment) OR you have an Audio Precision.

The quick and dirty explanation is the more input gain, the worse you make your noise floor and therefore signal to noise ratio. Sure, we could make our units noisier, in the future, in order to make up for low output from source devices or from content, but I highly doubt that will ever happen. It is not the companies philosophy to sacrifice our units performance to make up for inadequacies elsewhere.

No need to apologize, but to be honest, you can't expect Outlaw employees to know that your Rotel has X amount more gain, and to state it as fact without having ever seen or used it. If you'd like to discuss input gain vs types of volume controls, feel free to call me after the busy season.

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#98251 - 12/12/18 09:04 PM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: kiwiaudio]
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Loc: Georgia, US of A!
I consistently get BR player video upon Handshake but some times I hafta mess w/ the Test and Enter buttons to get audio. Did not experience this w/the third title, “Home Alone” on DVD.

Also sometimes when I press the remote’s volume increase, the volume DECREASES!

We’ll see

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#98252 - 12/13/18 04:20 PM Re: 976 Dislikes or improvement/update wish list ! [Re: kiwiaudio]
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Registered: 04/08/08
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Check out this thread from last year around this time. Maybe the elves are on strike.
http://saloon.outlawaudio.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=97326#Post97326
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