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#97620 - 01/18/18 02:26 PM 976 is warm
kiwiaudio Offline
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Registered: 01/16/11
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I dont recall ever having a component that was warm to the touch while powered down. My 976 is warm, not hot, indicating it is consuming power. I suppose it is essentially in standby mode before switching it on with the crazy blue button.
Probably not an issue, just worthy of note !
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#97628 - 01/19/18 06:29 AM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
drueb Offline
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Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 65
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By kiwiaudio
I dont recall ever having a component that was warm to the touch while powered down. My 976 is warm, not hot, indicating it is consuming power. I suppose it is essentially in standby mode before switching it on with the crazy blue button.
Probably not an issue, just worthy of note !


Back in the day, when I was a true audiophile, regarding solid state components, the industry idea was that warm circuits sound better that cold ones...just say'in!
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#97685 - 01/25/18 05:46 PM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
975 destroyer Offline
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Registered: 09/07/15
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Loc: Georgia, US of A!
I have a 5" fan blowing rear-to-front on my 975 as an added precautionary measure. Sounds like that will continue when I receive my 976.

Side note: 976 manual p19 contains a "975" typo

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#97688 - 01/26/18 07:47 AM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
Helson Offline
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Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 236
Loc: USA
My 976 does run warm. But, when powered down it cools off to no heat after a short time.
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#97941 - 03/25/18 07:30 AM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
BryanH Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 28
Loc: Austin TX
My 976 is not warm, it's hot. I measured the top of the case at 114 degrees when in standby. I've emailed support about this.

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#97942 - 03/25/18 08:38 AM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Good air flow is the best long term thing you can do for your equipment.
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#97943 - 03/25/18 10:29 AM Re: 976 is warm [Re: XenonMan]
975 destroyer Offline
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Registered: 09/07/15
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Loc: Georgia, US of A!
Originally Posted By BryanH
My 976* is not warm, it's hot. I measured the top of the case at 114* degrees when in standby*.
That* is not good. My 975 stays cool in Standby; gets warm(er) as I crank it higher. How long have you had it? Did you discover right away or did it manifest after some time?

On that note, when I receive mine*, I will plug it in and leave it in Stand by for several hours. I do NOT want to install only to remove & return - too much cabling.

Originally Posted By XenonMan
Good air flow is the best long term thing you can do for your equipment.
I believe Bryan’s is WELL past what “good air flow” can reverse

Originally Posted By BryanH
I've emailed support about this.
Let us know ASAP. I hope you kept your box


Edited by 975 destroyer (03/25/18 10:33 AM)
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#97946 - 03/25/18 01:54 PM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2619
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
You need that air flow to remove whatever heat is generated. Without air flow the main heat transfer method is radiative which requires the equipment to operate at a much higher temperature to get rid of the heat. With good air flow the heat is removed before the equipment can get hot thus preserving its life. Make sure you have plenty of space around it and put a quiet computer fan to draw air through it.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97947 - 03/25/18 04:55 PM Re: 976 is warm [Re: XenonMan]
975 destroyer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 09/07/15
Posts: 117
Loc: Georgia, US of A!
Originally Posted By XenonMan
You need that air flow to remove whatever heat is generated.
I agree w/your point, 100%. In Bryan’s case, something is clearly not right w/his 976. As others have posted, warm seems ok, but 114 degrees on STANDBY?! I don’t think so.
Originally Posted By XenonMan
Make sure you have plenty of space around it and put a quiet computer fan to draw air through it.

Further, several high CFM* fans “ain’t gonna take care of biz” for his unit.
* noisy to boot

As I just posted, I believe Bryan’s unit is WELL past what “good air flow” can reverse

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#97948 - 03/26/18 05:04 AM Re: 976 is warm [Re: kiwiaudio]
BryanH Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 28
Loc: Austin TX
I have fans that turn on when the 976 applies 5V to the trigger out. When something electronic is in "standby" mode, I expect it to consume as close to zero power as possible. At 115 degrees, my 976 is clearly pulling some serious current. If support comes back and tells me this is "normal", I'll probably sell the 976 (I'm just past the 30 day return) and go elsewhere.

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