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#97548 - 01/10/18 06:54 AM Re: An Ultra-X13 review [Re: Hank]
kiwiaudio Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 01/16/11
Posts: 78
I too have long subscribed to the multiple sub theory, but two X13's were just too much for my theater. Fully treated room is only 2100ft3, and i could not back these monsters off enough so they would not dominate the room. At one point during an explosive action scene using DD Master 7.2, i thought maybe i just made the room bigger !
Im sending one of them back - one is plenty for me !
I will however augment the X13 with one of my smaller subs because i just have to be able to say ive got two !!
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Double drywalled, "Green Glue" treated Theater
GIK acoustic treatment
Epson 8700UB Projecting on a 135" Seymour XD Audio transparent screen
Outlaw 976 Processor
Outlaw 755 amp for Center and all four surrounds
Adcom GFA 555II for Main L & R channels
Behringer EP4000 for two homemade subs
Outlaw Ultra X13 for REAL Sub Bass !
OPPO BDP103, Marantz CD63SE, Denon DP300F
2 Adcom ACE515s for AC current treatment
Newport Theater Director for AC distribution.
Speakers are all built by myself utilizing Dynaudio Drivers
Second room: Yamaha receiver, Musical fidelity X10D tubes, Carver C9 holographic pro.

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#97550 - 01/10/18 01:11 PM Re: An Ultra-X13 review [Re: gonk]
arbitrageur Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/16/17
Posts: 16
Loc: Minneapolis, MN
That’s good feedback, I only have one X-13 and have thought about adding another for the many benefits of having multiple subs. I found that even with only one (level matched using REW) I still had to dial back the LFE trims in the LFE menu, just wondering if you also adjusted those?


Edited by arbitrageur (01/10/18 01:12 PM)
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Outlaw Audio Model 976 / 7700 / Ultra-X13
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Blue Jeans Cables (XLRs, Canare 4S11 Bi-wire, HDMI)
Tivo Bolt, Xbox One X, AppleTV, LG C765P
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GIK Acoustics Soffit Bass Traps, 244 Panels, Monster Bass Traps, QRD7 / Polyfusor Diffusers

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#97553 - 01/10/18 04:03 PM Re: An Ultra-X13 review [Re: arbitrageur]
kiwiaudio Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 01/16/11
Posts: 78
I started to do that, but i stopped myself with the logic that if i have to dial them back more than a click or two, then two subs is too much to begin with. At $1100 each (december discount), i couldnt see not utilizing their full potential.
Listening to multichannel or stereo music, which rarely got the X13's even started (probably zero content below 40Hz) was a giant waste of money. The first Master Audio 7.2 Bluray i played had a constant overpowering hum of bass energy in normal scenes that have an underlying sense of shits-going-to-happen soon ! It made the movie unwatchable, but when that storm did hit, it about blew the walls out of my room !! The same scenes with just one X13 was far more enjoyable and the big hits were still major impressive, whilst saving my wall studs !
I worked with the two X13s for a few days but the room is just too small. These things are strong !
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Double drywalled, "Green Glue" treated Theater
GIK acoustic treatment
Epson 8700UB Projecting on a 135" Seymour XD Audio transparent screen
Outlaw 976 Processor
Outlaw 755 amp for Center and all four surrounds
Adcom GFA 555II for Main L & R channels
Behringer EP4000 for two homemade subs
Outlaw Ultra X13 for REAL Sub Bass !
OPPO BDP103, Marantz CD63SE, Denon DP300F
2 Adcom ACE515s for AC current treatment
Newport Theater Director for AC distribution.
Speakers are all built by myself utilizing Dynaudio Drivers
Second room: Yamaha receiver, Musical fidelity X10D tubes, Carver C9 holographic pro.

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#97556 - 01/10/18 05:53 PM Re: An Ultra-X13 review [Re: gonk]
XenonMan Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2525
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
It sounds like you had a bass node near your listening position but I would agree that two x13 is too much for 2100 ft3. Two M8s would probably have been a good choice.
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


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Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97625 - 01/19/18 04:39 AM Re: An Ultra-X13 review [Re: gonk]
kiwiaudio Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 01/16/11
Posts: 78
Update: This X13 is incredible. Ive had a bunch of so called subwoofers over the years, including some ive made myself, but ive never really experienced true sub bass until now.
Ive left it with one port open, set to EQ1, for the lowest response curve. If the graphs ive seen are accurate, response is still very flat, but this is not its THX mode.
I watched "Edge of tomorrow" last night. There is a sound track at the very start of this movie that goes lower than ive heard anywhere before. Reviewers say it approaches 10Hz.
The X13 reproduced this at stunning pressure with no audible distortion, although it was scary strong and made me jump for the remote !
My son, two floors up, came running down to the basement thinking there was an earthquake. I swear the single foam plug is working its way out of the port !
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Double drywalled, "Green Glue" treated Theater
GIK acoustic treatment
Epson 8700UB Projecting on a 135" Seymour XD Audio transparent screen
Outlaw 976 Processor
Outlaw 755 amp for Center and all four surrounds
Adcom GFA 555II for Main L & R channels
Behringer EP4000 for two homemade subs
Outlaw Ultra X13 for REAL Sub Bass !
OPPO BDP103, Marantz CD63SE, Denon DP300F
2 Adcom ACE515s for AC current treatment
Newport Theater Director for AC distribution.
Speakers are all built by myself utilizing Dynaudio Drivers
Second room: Yamaha receiver, Musical fidelity X10D tubes, Carver C9 holographic pro.

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