#97266 - 12/11/17 01:29 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Desperado
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That first post had me concerned about the Harmony issue - thanks for the clarification, Peter. I look forward to getting the 976 code into my Harmony One, AND Look forward to my 976 Christmas.
Edited by Hank (12/11/17 01:30 PM)
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#97268 - 12/11/17 01:59 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Gunslinger
Registered: 11/05/07
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I have about a 20dB increase between 35Hz and 60Hz.
That's actually a nice problem to have! 20 dB is indeed to much bass, but for movie and pop/rock music, having 6-8 more dB in the bass region is often found to be pleasing. If your room is providing the lift by itself, that's like free sub power!
Edited by Deromax (12/11/17 04:47 PM)
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#97269 - 12/11/17 02:41 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Gunslinger
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I have about a 20dB increase between 35Hz and 60Hz.
How did you arrive at that?
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#97270 - 12/11/17 04:18 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Gunslinger
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I have about a 20dB increase between 35Hz and 60Hz.
How did you arrive at that? The increase is actually between 25Hz and 60Hz. I measured my PSA's sub response with REW and that is what the graph showed. That was with Audyssey turned off. The increase was not as much with Audyssey on.
Edited by mdanderson (12/11/17 05:40 PM)
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#97271 - 12/11/17 08:18 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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20dB is quite a bump. I think I have a similar increase in low frequencies in my family room and I always thought it was my modest subwoofer that was not up to the task. I suspect after applying the 976's PEQ settings your bass/LFE will be much less boomy and I'm hoping to achieve similar positive results. Yes I am hoping that the PEQ of the 976 can help tame it a little. I won't be able to do anything about it for my music though, because I listen only through the 7.1 analog inputs. That is ok with me because the excellent dacs of my Oppo 205 sound so nice.
Edited by mdanderson (12/11/17 08:28 PM)
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#97272 - 12/11/17 08:23 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/14/01
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Loc: Garland,Tx. USA
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I have about a 20dB increase between 35Hz and 60Hz.
That's actually a nice problem to have! 20 dB is indeed to much bass, but for movie and pop/rock music, having 6-8 more dB in the bass region is often found to be pleasing. If your room is providing the lift by itself, that's like free sub power! I have not thought about it that way but you make a good point. I don't really notice it with movies but I do with music. Certain songs on a couple of my MC Sacds have that added emphasis in the upper bass notes and it can sound a little odd at times. The rest of my sacds and dvd audio discs sound fantastic.
Edited by mdanderson (12/11/17 08:29 PM)
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#97274 - 12/11/17 09:03 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Be VERY cautious boosting your sub below ~25hz. Applying a wideband, modest cut in the middle of that bump is much safer
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#97275 - 12/11/17 09:41 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Be VERY cautious boosting your sub below ~25hz. Applying a wideband, modest cut in the middle of that bump is much safer Good to reinforce that you shouldn't boost the output of a low frequency range because the amplifier can't overcome the suck out caused by the room. Or for that matter below the sub's frequency range. From my research it may be possible to make a modest reduction in a low frequency dip but it isn't likely to remove the majority of the dip.
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#97276 - 12/11/17 10:36 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Desperado
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Do the sub crawl, re-position sub and remeasure.
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#97278 - 12/13/17 09:01 PM
Re: 976 Initial Impressions after 24 hours
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Desperado
Registered: 09/12/05
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Loc: El Cajon, California
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I'll get some of my own initial impressions over the weekend as my 976 is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'll only be able to do the normal setup without PEQ adjustments as my UMIK-1 mic won't arrive until later this month. However, my question is regarding remote codes:
I just checked the Harmony site and the 976 codes have not been added yet. If I tell the Harmony software I have a 975 will it work with the 976? Are the codes different or is it that some of the 976 codes are missing?
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