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#97230 - 12/09/17 12:30 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: Stephen B]
mdanderson Offline
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Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 161
Loc: Garland,Tx. USA
Originally Posted By Stephen B
Originally Posted By bbaggin5
I will be setting up my new 976 (arrived this morning) tomorrow


Are you set up to run REW and adjust the PEQ? I am interested in your thoughts and know I am not the only one. If you are able to run the eq? If so it would be appreciated if you would would list the hardware you used and what you thought of the interface. Thank you

Congrats on your new processor. Judging by my 975 experience your 976 should do everything Outlaw has advertised and do it well.


I am interested in this as well. I have been practicing with running measurements with REW using my Marantz and my 976 is scheduled for delivery this Tuesday. Thanks.
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Paradigm Studio 20v5-fronts
Paradigm Studio CC-490v5-center
Paradigm Studio 10v5- side surrounds,Monitor surround 3v7-bck surr
Oppo UDP-205/LG 65C6
Outlaw 976 prepro/ Emotiva BasX A-700 amp
Power Sound Audio 15S

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#97231 - 12/09/17 02:00 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: Stephen B]
bbaggin5 Offline
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Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 10
Loc: Poughquag, NY, USA
I've never run REW but I may look into it since I have an SPL meter. My initial setup was just using the Auto feature and the supplied mic.

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#97232 - 12/09/17 03:13 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
Stephen B Offline
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Registered: 01/15/15
Posts: 214
Loc: East Texas
Depending on your spl meter it may not hear much past 3k or so. Most all room issues will be well below 3k so while a SPL meter might not be your first choice for a mic it will work.

Is there a reason why the mic included with the 976 cannot be used?

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#97233 - 12/09/17 04:30 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
The mic supplied is probably specifically tuned for the signal generated by the auto setup program. Depending on the specific frequency of that signal the mic might not cover the range that the EQ system can. Keep in mind the auto setup program is pretty basic and usually only determines speaker size and distance not full frequency capability.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97234 - 12/09/17 06:22 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
kiwiaudio Offline
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Registered: 01/16/11
Posts: 85
Loc: United States
I ordered one yesterday, probably too late for the initial batch. Cannot wait to replace my old 950.
I would think renaming the inputs is going to be the number 1 request for an update. Ive been pondering the supplied names and like everyone else im thinking: what input name am i going to use for my Oppo? Disc, Media ??? Hey, I want to name it "Oppo" !!!!
Anyone know the cable length on the supplied mic? I need 25ft as i have a media closet outside my dedicated theater, so will probably need an extension. Is it a mono 3.5mm cable ?
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Double drywalled, "Green Glue" treated Theater
GIK acoustic treatment
Epson 8700UB Projecting on a 135" Seymour XD Audio transparent screen
Outlaw 976 Processor
Outlaw 755 amp for Center and all four surrounds
Adcom GFA 555II for Main L & R channels
Behringer EP4000 for two homemade subs
Outlaw Ultra X13 for REAL Sub Bass !
OPPO BDP103, Marantz CD63SE, Denon DP300F
2 Adcom ACE515s for AC current treatment
Newport Theater Director for AC distribution.
Speakers are all built by myself utilizing Dynaudio Drivers
Second room: Yamaha receiver, Musical fidelity X10D tubes, Carver C9 holographic pro.

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#97235 - 12/09/17 06:51 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: bbaggin5]
mdanderson Offline
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Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 161
Loc: Garland,Tx. USA
Originally Posted By bbaggin5
I've never run REW but I may look into it since I have an SPL meter. My initial setup was just using the Auto feature and the supplied mic.


How loud were the test tones on the 976? The 976 manual mentioned that the test tones are quite loud so I was thinking about using a separate test disc to be on the safe side. Thanks.
_________________________
Paradigm Studio 20v5-fronts
Paradigm Studio CC-490v5-center
Paradigm Studio 10v5- side surrounds,Monitor surround 3v7-bck surr
Oppo UDP-205/LG 65C6
Outlaw 976 prepro/ Emotiva BasX A-700 amp
Power Sound Audio 15S

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#97239 - 12/09/17 10:55 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
The test tones are loud enough for the mic to accurately determine the speaker distance and size. The supplied mic has a 3.5 mm jack and quite a long cord for the mic. How would you use a test disc with the auto system? I would doubt if Outlaw will make a FW change to allow renaming of sources. They probably figure that once the 976 is configured there will be no need to display what the source is as the user should know.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#97240 - 12/09/17 11:46 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: XenonMan]
mdanderson Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 161
Loc: Garland,Tx. USA
How would you use a test disc with the auto system?

I would use it with the manual adjustments. I know I can't use it with the auto. I was just concerned about damaging my speakers if the internal test tones start out too loud.
_________________________
Paradigm Studio 20v5-fronts
Paradigm Studio CC-490v5-center
Paradigm Studio 10v5- side surrounds,Monitor surround 3v7-bck surr
Oppo UDP-205/LG 65C6
Outlaw 976 prepro/ Emotiva BasX A-700 amp
Power Sound Audio 15S

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#97241 - 12/10/17 06:20 AM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: Stephen B]
bbaggin5 Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 10
Loc: Poughquag, NY, USA
The web page for REW says you need a calibrated mic, in the $80-$100 category. Since this would be my only use for it I don't see myself making the expenditure.

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#97244 - 12/10/17 10:21 AM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: bbaggin5]
Stephen B Offline
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Registered: 01/15/15
Posts: 214
Loc: East Texas
Originally Posted By bbaggin5
The web page for REW says you need a calibrated mic, in the $80-$100 category. Since this would be my only use for it I don't see myself making the expenditure.


Your Radio Shack SPL meter might be on the list of available calibration profiles. At one time REW had files for several different meters.

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