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#94811 - 02/06/15 05:54 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Disconnect the nanoAVR DL and see if the problem is resolved. It is strange that the only two issues I have seen with this both involve the same piece of gear in the audio stream.
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#94812 - 02/06/15 06:02 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
XenonMan Offline
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
This may be part of the issue. Contact Outlaw to verify this was tested for interaction.

Please note: the nanoAVR DL does not contain an embedded Dolby/DTS decoder
and therefore only accepts linear PCM (LPCM) audio streams. Please make sure
that your player/source can be set to provide multichannel audio as linear PCM.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#94817 - 02/07/15 09:55 AM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
Stephen B Offline
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Registered: 01/15/15
Posts: 214
Loc: East Texas
Being new to this type of multi channel the terms still go over my head at times. I see the options of using the LPCM or Bitstream. What is the difference and should one be used over the other? Thanks

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#94818 - 02/07/15 02:22 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Your BDP has to be set to output LPCM if the nanoAVR is in stream. LPCM is essentially a raw format output from the BDP that your nanoAVR adjusts to give you control of the output to the 975. What comes out of the NanoAVR is the adjusted LPCM signal and the 975 may not be happy with it or maybe the NanoAVR is having issues(doubtful since two systems are having the same issue). A bitstream signal is something that has already been encoded with the DTS or Dolby codecs and does not need to be tweaked by the 975. Since you are using the NanoAVR the 975 has to take that input and interpret it as dolby or DTS to make the output.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#94819 - 02/07/15 02:25 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Your BDP has to be set to output LPCM if the nanoAVR is in stream. LPCM is essentially a raw format output from the BDP that your nanoAVR adjusts to give you control of the output to the 975. What comes out of the NanoAVR is the adjusted LPCM signal and the 975 may not be happy with it or maybe the NanoAVR is having issues(doubtful since two systems are having the same issue). A bitstream signal is something that has already been encoded with the DTS or Dolby codecs and does not need to be tweaked by the 975. Since you are using the NanoAVR the 975 has to take that input and interpret it as dolby or DTS to make the output.
_________________________
Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#94857 - 02/20/15 12:13 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
maxmercy Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 10/23/14
Posts: 6
Upgraded firmware on the nanoAVR to the new BM version and all is well. It was an issue between the nano and the Outlaw.

JSS

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#94866 - 02/21/15 05:36 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
mstmorse Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 22
Loc: Meriden, CT
I have had random dropouts as well. This has happened on all of my sources, from directv, xbox one and ps4. I have tried the hot swap as well as other cables. After talking with outlaw, i was to send the 975 back to be looked at. I didn't want to do this as it sounds amazing and don't want to be without it. This was several months ago and now it is getting annoying. Might have to rethink about tolerating it.

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#94870 - 02/21/15 06:05 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
PeterT Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 11/19/05
Posts: 263
I really suggest that you send it back and let us take a look at the problem. Please call Ben and let him take care of this.

Peter

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#94911 - 03/01/15 02:25 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: PeterT]
adam2434 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/18/14
Posts: 16
Different issue, but thought I'd post here rather than starting a new thread.

Hooked up a Squeezebox optical to the 975 just to try it out (I normally have the Squeezebox connected to a separate DAC which feeds a separate preamp with HT bypass). Between tracks, the 975 unlocks and cuts-off the very beginning of the next track when tracks advance automatically. When I manually forward to the next track, it stays locked and works fine. I’ve never had this issue with any of the other 5 DACs I’ve used with the Squeezebox. This issue would make the 975 and Squeezebox combo unusable for me, although I don’t have plans to use the combo anyway.

Anyone else experience this?

Could Outlaw create a firmware fix to keep the digital inputs locked-on?

I’m running firmware 5.3, by the way.

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#94912 - 03/01/15 03:48 PM Re: Audio dropouts with Outlaw 975 [Re: maxmercy]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Have you checked with Logitech to see if anyone else reports this issue with any other processor?
_________________________
Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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