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#93370 - 07/22/13 07:27 PM Outlaws Next Pre/Pro?
mdrconsult Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/27/07
Posts: 126
Loc: Austin, Texas
Things have been remarkably quiet around here for several months now. I am wondering is there any news about the big brother to the 975? I thought Outlaw was going to release a higher end more feature rich Pre/Pro sometime after the 975. I think it was going to have a 99X designation. Is there any news on this unit?
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Emotiva XMC-1, Outlaw 7500, Sonus Faber Olympica III Fronts, SF Liuto Center, SF Surrounds, LFM-1 EX, Oppo BDP-103D, Apple TV (Gen. 4), Mitsubishi 65" Diamond DLP, Outlaw Cables, PS Audio Power Quintet, Duet and power cords.

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#93371 - 07/22/13 08:36 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
XenonMan Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
I don't recall any followup processor being promised although we are hopeful for a "big brother" to the 975. I would have hoped for the Trinnov system to have survived but alas I think it may be pie in the sky.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#93374 - 07/25/13 05:23 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
KOYAAN Offline
Desperado

Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 358
Loc: Sanford NC
Outlaw has kind of been that route and it was a disaster. Tinnov was a great idea, but i'm not sure anyone can make it work.
I'd love to see Outlaw come out with an EQ only unit that would supplement there Pre-pro offerings, but I don't expect it to happen.
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990/770
Oppo BD83SE
Pioneer Elite DV-47A
Magnavox HDMR513h DVR/DVD-R
Sony DVD megachangers-2
Sony CD megachangers-2
Monster power centers-2
Sony 48" rear projection SDTV
Roku video player
JVC AL-A158 Turntable
Polk RT-2000s,CS-650,XS-650s,RT80s
LFM-1EX
Hsu VTF-1
12" Velodyne

Family room:
OPPO 970
Sony 32" direct view HDTV
Denon 3801
Rolk RMs

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#93376 - 07/26/13 08:30 AM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
rubbersoul Offline
Desperado

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
I disagree KOYAAN.
I myself like many others since the demise of the 975 are looking for something more substantial then an EQ device.
While I have never heard of Outlaw coming out with or investing in a BB to the 975 I do agree that this forum needs vital resucatation. It is somewhat boring coming to this forum while there is no new avenues of product reinforcement to get people interested in Outlaw.
That said I am the proud owner of the 990/7700 combo and I was very excited and looking forward to the 975 and would have made a purchase. Since we read the obituary of the 975 some time ago I had it in my head to make a leap to Marantz....specifically the 8801. Mine you while the price tag is steep I did some research and found someone selling the Marantz ( authorized dealer) for1/3 less than its original price tag. However I came to my senses and realized that the 990 is for now STILL an adequate processor. Adequate compared to some of the processors that were in the marketplace at the time of the 990 release. By today's standards I feel it is a dinosaur.
I have taken time off researching for a new processor because I realize my system both in 2channel and 7.1 mode still has me at the edge of my seat when I put on a riveting movie on an artist such as Jane Monheit.
I am going to remain loyal to Outlaw and wait. Sit tight and wait. I just hope Outlaw survives. It is pretty competitive in the electronics market and I don't see a company surviving on pass performance indefinitely.
I also hope that IF Outlaw is redesigning a new processor it does NOT make any announcement of its development until it is in its final stages of production. The 975 was to much of a let down and disappointed a lot of people.
I hope Outlaw has a rebirth in the electronic environment.
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Outlaw 990/7700
Conrad Johnson Premier140 Tube Amplifier
Conrad Johnson 17LS MKll Pre Amp
B&W 803D2’s HTM3S DS7's
HSU Subwoofer
Mitsubishi 6800 Projector
Da-Lite Screen,
Oppo BDP93
Comcast
PS Audio DSD
Stack Variac
Kill-O-Watt
Nakamichi cables Audio 8 cables
Air-Server
Mac-Mini
ROON

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#93377 - 07/26/13 12:52 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
Owl's_Warder Offline
Desperado

Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
rubbersoul, I don't feel that the 975 is dead already. I think it's a great pre/pro and love mine! I realize some people wanted more from it but at this price with the kind of performance it has, I really don't think there's much to complain about. In fact, I think that as more people find it and spread the word, the Outlaws should find they have quite a nice little hit on their hands.

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#93378 - 07/26/13 07:05 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
XenonMan Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
I think Rubbersoul is referring to the 978/997/998 series of cancelled processors. I agree the cancelled products were a disappointment to most of us but the 975 seems to have filled a niche at least in the short term. I for one agree that the forum has become rather boring since there are no discussions of upcoming equipment and Outlaw has been very tightlipped about any future stuff. Right now we are reduced to discussing the same old equipment and most of those questions can be found in the various threads. We need some new stuff to talk about.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#93379 - 07/26/13 07:22 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
Owl's_Warder Offline
Desperado

Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
Ahh, that makes more sense Xenon. I do agree that the forums have been more crickets than anything of late, though. It used to be much more lively back when we had notice of pending releases and speculation and opinions ran wild across the plains. Unfortunately, there were those that got too far bent out of shape when works in progress didn't pan out or took longer than anticipated to finish and were unable to temper their reactions. So the Outlaws stopped sharing the potentially new and exciting to quell the backlash and I fear this is the result. I understand the position and can't argue the logic of it, but it really seems to have squashed a lot of potential conversations.

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#93380 - 07/27/13 09:28 AM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
rubbersoul Offline
Desperado

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
XM is correct I was referring to the 978 series. I apologize. The 975 although it is less than what a lot of people expected is for the price an outstanding piece of equipment.
This is a review I have read about the 975.

www.hometheater.com/content/outlaw-model-975-surround-processor

I enjoyed coming to this forum almost everyday but lately there seems to be just the sound of tumbleweeds and cobwebs, people myself included hoping to come to this site someday reading about something new and exciting.
I still have hope and that hope is the flame I see everytime I turn on my 990/7700.
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Outlaw 990/7700
Conrad Johnson Premier140 Tube Amplifier
Conrad Johnson 17LS MKll Pre Amp
B&W 803D2’s HTM3S DS7's
HSU Subwoofer
Mitsubishi 6800 Projector
Da-Lite Screen,
Oppo BDP93
Comcast
PS Audio DSD
Stack Variac
Kill-O-Watt
Nakamichi cables Audio 8 cables
Air-Server
Mac-Mini
ROON

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#93381 - 07/31/13 11:19 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
ndskurfer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 120
Loc: Bismarck, ND
It has been a while since I have been back to this forum. During the times of 997/998/978 I was checking here for info a few times a day. Now, my expectations on the next processor is not as great as it once was, although I would like to come back some day to an unexpected surprise...

Today I see Outlaw as a really good Sub & Amp company. Not discrediting the 975, I'm sure it is great, but not what I was looking for.

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#93404 - 08/07/13 12:05 PM Re: Outlaws Next Pre/Pro? [Re: mdrconsult]
C E Rorabaugh Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 12/27/11
Posts: 6
Hello all.

I would replace my Outlaw 990 with a newer Outlaw, except I really like the convenience of the rear USB input. The built in DAC, is more than adequate. I have compared it to several modest priced external DAC's. I have an extensive classical and jazz library in lossless and my PC's USB out goes right into the 990. Are there better DAC's, sure, but remember that Outlaw is great mid-price gear, and I'd rather not spend $$$ on a super DAC that is slightly or even marginally better just for a wow or cool factor.

Claude Rorabaugh


Edited by C E Rorabaugh (08/07/13 12:06 PM)

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