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#90558 - 06/09/12 03:13 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: EEman]
MDRiggs Offline
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Registered: 09/15/11
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Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: EEman
Is the buzz 60 Hz-which may indicate that you have a ground loop?

If it were a ground loop the buzz would be coming from the speakers, which it isn't at all. It's mechanical buzz from the transformer. At this point I'm pretty much convinced that it's the transformer's response to fluctuating AC voltage.

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#90560 - 06/09/12 05:55 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: MDRiggs]
XenonMan Offline
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Walks like a duck, smells like a duck looks like a duck, it's the TV Dude. Are you using the TVs speakers at all? If so, turn them off in the TV menu. What type of lighting does the TV use. It could be a bad inverter in the TV backfeeding into your AC circuit.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#90562 - 06/09/12 09:37 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: XenonMan]
MDRiggs Offline
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Originally Posted By: XenonMan
Walks like a duck, smells like a duck looks like a duck, it's the TV Dude. Are you using the TVs speakers at all? If so, turn them off in the TV menu. What type of lighting does the TV use. It could be a bad inverter in the TV backfeeding into your AC circuit.

TV speakers are off. TV is a plasma. It's the TV in the sense that the TV is causing the voltage on the AC line to vary substantially. All the evidence points to that as the cause now. Makes complete sense. Probably would not have come up in the winter, when the grid and the house circuits are not so heavily loaded. Right now, I sometimes see the voltage to the A/V system drop as low as 111 volts, with the current up to as much as 6.7 amps, depending on what's on the screen. If it were noise on the line, I'd expect it to affect other components as well, and perhaps to manifest in the signal feeds, which doesn't happen.

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#90563 - 06/09/12 11:50 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: MDRiggs]
beyond 1000 Offline
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Registered: 06/09/11
Posts: 223
Loc: Vancouver, Canada
Having said all this, can you call a troubleshooter..ie expert electrician who would be able to fix something in your lines and give the tv a dedicated line. I don't know if this will work. Because if you hear this noise in the quiet parts of the movie then there is a problem that will always bug you. Can you somehow TEST a different tv on your system. I know it is a huge job BUT maybe the tv has got to go. First get expert electrical advice.
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#90564 - 06/10/12 12:34 AM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: beyond 1000]
XenonMan Offline
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I have an APC H-15 which maintains system voltage right at 124 vac where I have it set. You can get them online for $2-300. I actually got both of mine for less than $100 each a few years ago. They also provide great lightning protection. You can also get them with battery backup.
_________________________
Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#90567 - 06/10/12 12:07 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: beyond 1000]
MDRiggs Offline
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Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 9
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: beyond 1000
Having said all this, can you call a troubleshooter..ie expert electrician who would be able to fix something in your lines and give the tv a dedicated line.

Fortunately there's a socket connected to another circuit nearby, so I'll just feed the amps from there. That effectively fixes the problem.

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#90568 - 06/10/12 12:08 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: XenonMan]
MDRiggs Offline
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Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 9
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: XenonMan
I have an APC H-15 which maintains system voltage right at 124 vac where I have it set. You can get them online for $2-300. I actually got both of mine for less than $100 each a few years ago. They also provide great lightning protection. You can also get them with battery backup.

Yeah, I may go to something like that eventually. Thanks for the lead.

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#90581 - 06/11/12 03:26 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: MDRiggs]
beyond 1000 Offline
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Registered: 06/09/11
Posts: 223
Loc: Vancouver, Canada
Originally Posted By: MDRiggs
Originally Posted By: beyond 1000
Having said all this, can you call a troubleshooter..ie expert electrician who would be able to fix something in your lines and give the tv a dedicated line.

Fortunately there's a socket connected to another circuit nearby, so I'll just feed the amps from there. That effectively fixes the problem.


Maybe you can extend that line close to your system so you won't have to run an extension. Nice to keep the thing neat and tidy. The APC conditioner Xenonman suggested is worth the try.
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#90586 - 06/11/12 08:46 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: beyond 1000]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Try checking the circuit at the breaker for any indications of overheating or loose connections. That will be easy to do. A loose connection on the circuit or its ground could be causing the problem. Turn the breaker off and check all of the receptacles fed by it for tight connections and good grounds. Pop the breaker out and replace it with the same style and amperage rating. The breakers are only like $6 at HD or Lowes and take 10 minutes to swap out.
_________________________
Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#90603 - 06/12/12 04:41 PM Re: Transformer Buzz [Re: XenonMan]
EEman Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Canton, MI
Have you checked the internals of the 7125? It's possible the transformer is not bolted securely and that this is causing the buzzing. Or maybe something else is loose and vibrating under load?

It you open up the unit be careful of the caps. They may hold charge long after the unit has been unplugged.

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