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#90911 - 07/13/12 04:08 PM R_E_S_P_E_C_T.... [Re: rjmelkon]
renov8r Offline
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I try to teach my kids to take a poop before they go over to friend's home just so they don't stink up the place.

I consider the efforts of Outlaw Audio to provide useful info through this forum and their (infrequent...) emails a courtesy and try to accept both the silence as well as the news.

Originally Posted By: rjmelkon
Like most I have been following the 978 saga for a while now and currently use a 950 in my HT.I personally can make do with my 950 but when I want to change I will decide either to wait for the 978 or buy something else,not whine about it on this forum or run a good company like outlaw through the mud.I have faith Outlaw will deliver a great pre-pro that will be the best value on the market and I trust that they are working hard to do just that.

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#90912 - 07/13/12 05:13 PM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: Kevin C Brown]
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Originally Posted By: Kevin C Brown
^^^

My impression is that there is still some kind of HDMI signal lock problem that delays audio for a second or two after signal interruption. You might not think that's that big a deal on the surface, but I think I came across a mention, that for example, every time you fast forward through a commercial on a DVR, bingo, it takes 1 or 2s after that to get the audio back. That's a pretty big day to day operational problem IMO. I'm sure there'd be more info about fixed and existing problems of the 972 on AVS though.


I can imagine that being pretty annoying. It wouldn't really affect my typical usage, but I hear ya. In any case, it seems like the price point for really high end room correction is within the reach of almost anyone interested in higher end sound these days. You've got Trinnov for $600, Audyssey XT32 for $1000-1350, and if you believe Emotiva you'll have TaCT's solution for about $1500 soon. The times they are a changin'.

With respect to the R972, there's a long thread in the receivers forum on AVS with comments from Noah Katz (who posts here from time to time) and, more importantly, Curt Trinnov.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1179978/sherwood-r-972-user-thread

People seem to like the Trinnov processing in spite of the other sometimes annoying quirks with the device. Definitely worth reading. At $600, it might be worth it for me to just get one for the sake of playing with Trinnov. (edit: Curt is actually Curt Hoyt, Trinnov's director of US operations for those who might not know.)

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Edited by Ritz2 (07/15/12 11:55 AM)
Edit Reason: clarification
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#90922 - 07/17/12 02:43 PM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: Kevin C Brown]
breeze Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
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My its been awhile since I posted here. I had to go look at my register date to be sure--yep, its closing in on five years, now. My earliest posts were concerning the replacement pre-pro for the 990, which I have used and enjoyed immensely since its purchase in '04, I think, along with five 2200's and about a grand worth of cables. When I caught wind that Outlaw was designing a replacement I pre-registered for the new one--almost five years ago...

I have since run completely out of patience. Just this last Wed. I received my brand-spankin' new 'Signature Edition' Integra 80.3 from the Upgrade Company. They, too, have been a pleasure to work with and I look forward to being a long-term and loyal customer.

Outlaw, for me, has lost its luster, even though, right now, I have a couple hundred dollars worth of cables in my cart. I am also considering that wireless transmitter doohickie for my 2 LFM-ex1's. I just don't see myself buying anymore big-ticket items from the Outlaws.

Happy Trails, pardners...
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#90925 - 07/18/12 09:17 AM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: breeze]
Scott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/10
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Hello Fellow Outlaws,

With the recent announcement regarding the Model 978 posted HERE, we are now moving this thread to the Outlaw to Outlaw Saloon where the discussion is free to continue.

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#90939 - 07/18/12 09:52 AM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: Scott]
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Alot of us sure would like to know who the competitor was........
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#90946 - 07/18/12 10:21 AM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: legivens]
sraber Offline
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ouch...
It's really too bad for Outlaw. Massive setback. Even though I wasn't waiting on the 978 it's still hard to hear after all this time.

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#90960 - 07/18/12 11:03 AM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: rjmelkon]
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Registered: 02/21/10
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Originally Posted By: rjmelkon
Like most I have been following the 978 saga for a while now and currently use a 950 in my HT.I personally can make do with my 950 but when I want to change I will decide either to wait for the 978 or buy something else,not whine about it on this forum or run a good company like outlaw through the mud.I have faith Outlaw will deliver a great pre-pro that will be the best value on the market and I trust that they are working hard to do just that.

Then again,I've been wrong before.
Open mouth,insert foot.I think I cursed the 978 with this post!
Seriously though I am excited about a pre-pro from Outlaw with HDMI and high quality DAC's that is also comparitively low cost.This can still be a win win for Outlaw and it's customers.

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#90963 - 07/18/12 11:27 AM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: rjmelkon]
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Registered: 01/27/09
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Not unexpected. Maybe now Outlaw can refocus their efforts on product segments where they can offer value and be price/feature competitive. PWM multi-channel amplifier, perhaps?

No champagne glasses clinking here. Time to move on to more productive pursuits and forget about the water under the bridge.

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#90968 - 07/18/12 12:29 PM Re: 2012 June Model 978 UPDATE! [Re: legivens]
FAUguy Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
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Originally Posted By: legivens
Alot of us sure would like to know who the competitor was........

I too would like to know who the company was that put pressure on the Plant to cancel the Outlaw product. I would make sure that I would never buy one of their products as a result. Too bad these things can't be made in the US without costing 10x the price. At least then you might have better control over the production.

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