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#89646 - 03/02/12 05:44 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Cadboy64]
GaryB Offline
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Let's see if Cadboy64's carrot works better than jkvoth's stick. wink

Or is the horse already dead?

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#89648 - 03/02/12 06:58 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: GaryB]
Virtio Offline
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It seems logical (to me anyway) that if steady progress was being made then they would want to share some of that with the community. However, they may not want their competitors to know the status of an unreleased product. Also, as high-tech audio devices become more complex the debugging phase can become quite long and unexpected bugs can delay the development. On top of that the rapid changes in technology and the obsolescence of parts just a few years old can cause more headaches. Each problem potentially compounds into several others. The design specification can also become a moving target as time passes and new technologies become available and others become dated and less desirable.

I have no idea what's happening inside Outlaw but as an Engineer I would hate to have to give updates on a blog about the products that I have in development.

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#89650 - 03/03/12 08:48 AM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Virtio]
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Originally Posted By: Virtio

I have no idea what's happening inside Outlaw but as an Engineer I would hate to have to give updates on a blog about the products that I have in development.


If you worked at GE or some other traditional manufacturer, I'd agree. But this is a "virtual" company that has always prided itself on the lack of brick and mortar distractions, has always marketed and fulfilled orders via the Internet, and has previously had an active voice on their own forums. Their customers have come to expect a regular flow of information/chatter from the company. Outlaw employees more or less stopped posting here, on ANY topic on anything approaching a regular basis. Check Peter and Scott's public profiles.

I'll go further and say that very little of consequence has been released by Outlaw in a couple of years. A tabletop ipod dock? Really? I don't claim to know anything about the financial state of the company, but as an outsider looking in, things appear bleak.

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#89653 - 03/03/12 10:28 AM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Ritz2]
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I see a fair number of online ads for their non-AV receiver. It seems like a good value for those that need / want a two channel receiver. The broader audio forums seem to have a decent number of people that recommend the Outlaw amp for both those initially creating a home theater setup as well as those upgrading from "box store" systems.

Bleak is really hard to define given the ongoing economic problems that are giving fits to all kinds fairly well funded retailers...
http://business.financialpost.com/2011/12/14/best-buy-woes-suggest-more-troubles-for-u-s-retailers/

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#89654 - 03/03/12 07:53 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: renov8r]
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Gentlemen, the fact that Gonk has not posted lately, I think means that the unit is beta testing. All we need to do is wait on gonk to post again.
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#89655 - 03/04/12 11:16 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: GaryB]
jkvoth Offline
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Originally Posted By: GaryB
Let's see if Cadboy64's carrot works better than jkvoth's stick. wink

Or is the horse already dead?


I certainly hope I didn't come off as someone who is angry or anything like that, because I'm certainly not. But it does look like the horse is dead. First, M&K. Is Outlaw next? Crap, maybe I need to stop being so loyal to these companies. I'm starting to think my money causes bankruptcy.
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#89657 - 03/05/12 02:20 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: jkvoth]
Hank Offline
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mj wrote: "Gentlemen, the fact that Gonk has not posted lately, I think means that the unit is beta testing."

That would be my guess.
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#89658 - 03/05/12 02:56 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Hank]
GaryB Offline
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I think many of us surmised that 2 or 3 months ago.

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#89687 - 03/09/12 12:10 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: GaryB]
legivens Offline
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I guess as normal these days, we're not going to hear from anyone. :-/
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#89688 - 03/09/12 04:18 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: legivens]
bobm Offline
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Originally Posted By: legivens
I guess as normal these days, we're not going to hear from anyone. :-/


Maybe Gonk has found so many problems they don't know what to do? smile

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