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#90003 - 04/10/12 05:30 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Kevin C Brown]
nixmikspop Offline
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I would of been one of the first in line but I am buying a used Integra DTC-9.8 on Thursday and if all goes well with that, my 990 heads into its box. So I guess it all depends on how I like the 9.8 but I certainly wouldn't be afraid of being an early owner of the 978 based on my past experiences with Outlaw.

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#90004 - 04/10/12 06:03 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Kevin C Brown]
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Thanks for clearing things up. I did not realize that coaxial RCA cables were as good or better than optical. My Oppo 93 is connected by HDMI straight to my Mitsubishi 6800 for video and I have use of both Optical and analog multichannel. I have a 40' run to my projector using blue jeans cable.
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#90006 - 04/10/12 06:58 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Kevin C Brown]
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I am not afraid to get a 978. I have two Outlaw amp, a 990, an OWA3 and an LFM1-EX. I just don't think it will be that much of a sonic improvement over what I have. I love my 990 for music as it is. I will run it until death comes to one of us. Outlaw is definitely not in Emotiva space. I don't think Emo likes to be criticized for the past practices. But... if they want people to stop they need to get their Sh*t in one sock with their newest device.
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Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
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#90007 - 04/10/12 08:47 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: XenonMan]
Ritz2 Offline
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Registered: 01/27/09
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Originally Posted By: XenonMan
I am not afraid to get a 978. I have two Outlaw amp, a 990, an OWA3 and an LFM1-EX. I just don't think it will be that much of a sonic improvement over what I have. I love my 990 for music as it is. I will run it until death comes to one of us. Outlaw is definitely not in Emotiva space. I don't think Emo likes to be criticized for the past practices. But... if they want people to stop they need to get their Sh*t in one sock with their newest device.


I've yet to purchase anything from Emotiva...mostly because of my aversion to spending money on higher end electronics that are assembled in China. That said, Emotiva DID recently purchase Bryston, a company that's very well respected in the industry. One would hope that Bryston's stellar reputation for quality and their very long warranties will be a good influence on Emotiva.

I was also a pretty big fan of my 990. I eventually stopped using it because of the lack of HDMI and more modern codec support. Outlaw's failure to follow-up the 990 with a successor in a timely manner has undoubtedly cost them a lot of business. I don't think I would buy a processor from them again after seeing the repeated flubs after the 990, but maybe some other folks are a bit more forgiving than I am...though I would caution those folks to avoid being the early adopter guinea pigs. smile Such is life. I would still recommend their ATI-sourced amps, even though they are a bit pricey compared to similar offerings from Emo.

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Edited by Ritz2 (04/10/12 08:49 PM)
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#90008 - 04/10/12 09:07 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Ritz2]
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It was Sherbourn that Emotiva bought. I'm sure they didn't purchase Bryston and a google search backs that up. Bryston is a high end manufacturer which designs and builds their amps in Canada, very very far from Emotiva's country of choice, China.
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#90009 - 04/10/12 09:47 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: S. Sharkey]
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Holy brain fart, batman. You're right, it was Sherbourn...another well respected name in the industry.

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#90014 - 04/11/12 10:05 AM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Ritz2]
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Ritz thank you.Honestly I never gave it a thought about the use of HDMI being capable of audio streaming.
I was so in-doctrinated into the use of optical.

Thank you for the insight.
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Outlaw 990/7700
Conrad Johnson Premier140 Tube Amplifier
Conrad Johnson 17LS MKll Pre Amp
B&W 803D2’s HTM3S DS7's
HSU Subwoofer
Mitsubishi 6800 Projector
Da-Lite Screen,
Oppo BDP93
Comcast
PS Audio DSD
Stack Variac
Kill-O-Watt
Nakamichi cables Audio 8 cables
Air-Server
Mac-Mini
ROON

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#90015 - 04/11/12 10:55 AM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: rubbersoul]
Ritz2 Offline
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Originally Posted By: rubbersoul
Ritz thank you.Honestly I never gave it a thought about the use of HDMI being capable of audio streaming.
I was so in-doctrinated into the use of optical.

Thank you for the insight.


Yeah, it really cuts down on the cable clutter too. smile

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#90016 - 04/11/12 01:50 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Ritz2]
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As Outlaw #58 (or 85 - don't remember), and an early buyer of my 950, I wouldn't be scared to be an early buyer of the 978. Only last year did my 950 start having problems: loud buzz (probably a loosened torroid xformer mount) and front panel volume control that doesn't change the volume when turned half the time (probably dirty contacts).
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#90037 - 04/12/12 06:01 PM Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1 [Re: Hank]
Unferth Offline
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Registered: 12/31/02
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Loc: Homewood, AL, US
I wouldn't be afraid to jump in early either smile.. I'm still using my 950... it's had to go back in a few years ago, but for now, my TV has enough hdmi inputs and everything has optical out or 7.1 out (bd player)... so I'm OK for now... BUT I want to re-arrange the room and mount the TV and put my equipment in a closet.. when I do that I'm going to go with only one hdmi cable to the TV... so... for now I wait while the mount for the TV sits in that closet smile

Wow.. I also just realized I've had my 950 for almost 10 years smile


Edited by Unferth (04/12/12 06:05 PM)

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