#89540 - 02/22/12 12:09 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: bwallen77]
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Gunslinger
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Loc: Austin, Texas
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I also have M80v3 with the VP180 center. I can't speak for the 7125 but my Rotel RMB1075 at 7x120 does the job just fine. I would expect the 7125 to be just as good if not better.
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#89542 - 02/22/12 04:20 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/10/06
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Cool - Thanks AusTexRocker.
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#89544 - 02/22/12 05:48 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: bwallen77]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/06/10
Posts: 21
Loc: NH
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As far as streaming goes, the quality is never there. Almost, but nothing like popping in a bluray. Maybe some would disagree, but I can stream netflix from my xbox anyways. And I can stream pandora and the like from my bluray player. I don't need to pay for redundancy.
As far as those type of basically MP3 files. I agree. However, the future is with higher resolution digital, from 16-bit/44.1kHz, the standard of CD resolution, up to 24 bit/192kHz that can have a better sound than vinyl. [url=http://www.goodsound.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:audio-101-part-6-sources-continued&catid=51:opinion&Itemid=3][/url]
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#89567 - 02/24/12 12:35 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: bwallen77]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/28/02
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Loc: Euless, Texas, USA
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In answer to your questions bwallen, I believe so. May want to check with Axiom. The M80's I believe are 4 Ohm and I don't believe any Outlaw amp has an issue with that. I'm using a Outlaw 9700 that absolutely rocks! With the M80's and the VP-180 center.
Edited by legivens (02/24/12 12:36 PM)
Edit Reason: Mistype
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#89578 - 02/25/12 08:41 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: happy2]
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Desperado
Registered: 01/01/03
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As far as those type of basically MP3 files. I agree. However, the future is with higher resolution digital, from 16-bit/44.1kHz, the standard of CD resolution, up to 24 bit/192kHz that can have a better sound than vinyl.
[url=http://www.goodsound.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:audio-101-part-6-sources-continued&catid=51:opinion&Itemid=3][/url] I agree. I have ripped all of my CDs using lossless compression and so there is no difference the sound quality of the content.
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#89582 - 02/26/12 01:35 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: renov8r]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 05/08/10
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The 978 features have included the ability to "feed" digital audio files to the onboard DAC from a computer via USB, such capability has existed in current Outlaw offerings. Of course the feature list and specific implementation has been "subject to change" forever... The Model 978 photos in the sticky post don't appear to include a USB port -- are they out of date as well? So hard to keep up... Very interested in both myself. There are clear shortcomings in each, though -- the Emotiva completely lacks analog video, for instance. Not a huge deal, perhaps, but I still have a couple of sources I'd like to use, and it'd be nice to have a single control system. Likewise, the Emo has only a single HDMI output; I don't care, but many do. On the other hand, the lack of any sort of control connectivity besides IR on the 978 is a huge pain. I could care less about integrated streaming (which the Emo has), but I'm trying really hard to move away from reliance on infrared. The Emo will have RS-232 and Ethernet control interfaces, which is nice.
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#89583 - 02/26/12 03:08 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: dtremit]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 131
Loc: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
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The Model 978 photos in the sticky post don't appear to include a USB port... Check the left side of the removable cover on the lower aspect of the front panel. Excellent post, btw... and not only because I've made the same observations about both products. And please allow me to point out (only because it's a pet peeve) that you really mean that you couldn't care less about integrated streaming. 
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#89632 - 03/01/12 02:53 AM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: GaryB]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 05/08/10
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The Model 978 photos in the sticky post don't appear to include a USB port... Check the left side of the removable cover on the lower aspect of the front panel. That's...an odd placement choice for a DAC input. Excellent post, btw... and not only because I've made the same observations about both products. And please allow me to point out (only because it's a pet peeve) that you really mean that you couldn't care less about integrated streaming. Argh! I know better than to make that mistake. I worry that the correct phrasing for that one may soon end up as uncommon as the proper usage of "begging the question," though.
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#89633 - 03/01/12 01:24 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: dtremit]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 131
Loc: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
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That's...an odd placement choice for a DAC input. At this point, we've only been told that the USB port will be used for firmware updates, in which case its location makes sense. Whether it will have additional capabilities... your guess is as good as mine. Argh! I know better than to make that mistake. I worry that the correct phrasing for that one may soon end up as uncommon as the proper usage of "begging the question," though. Both battles are already lost, I'm afraid.  But I keep trying...
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#89634 - 03/01/12 02:00 PM
Re: Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1
[Re: dtremit]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 08/29/05
Posts: 27
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Excellent post, btw... and not only because I've made the same observations about both products. And please allow me to point out (only because it's a pet peeve) that you really mean that you couldn't care less about integrated streaming. Argh! I know better than to make that mistake. I worry that the correct phrasing for that one may soon end up as uncommon as the proper usage of "begging the question," though. I could care less whether people screw those usages up. No, really, I could care less. But, yes, it's annoying. 
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