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#84113 - 06/25/10 11:19 PM Re: ICE Power Amps [Re: Retep]
redman6 Offline
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well I would wait to see what their top end power will be with the ice amps, as I suspect it will only compare to the high end avr models for output performance when looking at the standpoint of denon, onkyo and Yamaha as a power amp solution i think ice has a long way to come before it competes with 7900 and various emotiva power amps..

the term watch this space rings true for the ice at this point in time..

in the future ICE may become a contender in all ht audio fields though for the moment they are no better or no worse than what's already out there..
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#84116 - 06/26/10 09:13 AM Re: ICE Power Amps [Re: redman6]
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Weren't we just having this conversation in another thread? Mdrconsult made an excellent point about terminology over there. ICE is one manufacturer's approach to class D amplification, but it's not the only hardware solution out there. The basic concept has taken years to evolve, and I agree that it deserves patience as we wait for it to reach a point where it can match class A/B solid state on sonic performance, power output, and cost. I've felt the same way ("watch this space") for quite a few years.

To assume that class D is only ever going to be as good as can be found in receivers, however, seems unlikely. As I've already pointed out, there are class D amps available today that offer plenty of power and good performance (such as the Axiom and Rotel examples I pointed out before). They've already produced something better than the class D products found inside mass market receivers. Also, class A/B surround receivers never were a match for class A/B multichannel power amps, but that was never because of any deficiency in the technology - it was a side effect of the compromises involved in designing multichannel receivers and cramming amps, power supplies, and heat sinks inside an already crowded chassis. Class D may help lessen the difficulties of fitting amps in a receiver, but they don't make them go away. You still need a big power supply to achieve what a separate power can do (rated output with all channels driven, support for low impedance loads, etc.).
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#84117 - 06/26/10 10:12 AM Re: ICE Power Amps [Re: gonk]
Jimna Offline
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Im in the watching that space camp as well.

Has anyone here played with the T amps?
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