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#83463 - 04/27/10 10:29 AM Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using?
edcrash1 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 81
Loc: Fairfield, CT (Suburb of NYC)
Does anyone have an ICBM in solid working condition that they are not using and want to sell? If so, please let me know. I am in the market for one and just missed an opportunity on Audiogon. My e-mail address is echristian@akingump.com

Thanks in advance.

Ed.
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#83469 - 04/28/10 12:07 AM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: edcrash1]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
Check ebay. There is one for sale, supposedly it is new, with the auction ending in 36 hours. Starting bid is $150. Hope you get it. I have one and use its as a high and low pass filter with a vintage Pioneer integrated amp for my satellite speakers and sub. The ICBM does a fine job.
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#83475 - 04/28/10 12:24 PM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: AvFan]
edcrash1 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 81
Loc: Fairfield, CT (Suburb of NYC)
AvFan, thanks for the lead; but, unfortunately, I cannot find the ebay auction of the ICBM. Go figure....
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Outlaw 990/7700/2200(2)
NHT M6(3)/L5(4)/U2(2)/A1(2)/X1
Samsung LN-T5265F(LCD)/BD-P1200 (BluRay)
Apple TV w/750 gb HD music server
Universal MX-810
Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR
Blue Jeans Cables

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#83487 - 04/28/10 08:39 PM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: edcrash1]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
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Loc: El Cajon, California
It is still there. Search Outlaw in the Electronics category. Its got 15 hours to go and no bids yet.

Here is the LINK just in case.
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#83489 - 04/28/10 10:18 PM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: AvFan]
edcrash1 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 81
Loc: Fairfield, CT (Suburb of NYC)
AvFan, thanks a bunch for the information. I found it this time. I guess I learned a lesson to not trust general searches because a general (i.e. no category selected) "outlaw" search does not pick it up, neither does "outlaw audio", and neither does "outlaw ICBM". I guess I will start searching on ebay only after I first select a category such as electronics! Thanks again.


Edited by edcrash1 (04/28/10 10:19 PM)
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Outlaw 990/7700/2200(2)
NHT M6(3)/L5(4)/U2(2)/A1(2)/X1
Samsung LN-T5265F(LCD)/BD-P1200 (BluRay)
Apple TV w/750 gb HD music server
Universal MX-810
Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR
Blue Jeans Cables

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#83506 - 04/29/10 05:58 PM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: edcrash1]
edcrash1 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 81
Loc: Fairfield, CT (Suburb of NYC)
AvFan, thanks to you I am the owner of an ICBM! Thank you.

Ed.
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Outlaw 990/7700/2200(2)
NHT M6(3)/L5(4)/U2(2)/A1(2)/X1
Samsung LN-T5265F(LCD)/BD-P1200 (BluRay)
Apple TV w/750 gb HD music server
Universal MX-810
Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR
Blue Jeans Cables

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#83507 - 04/29/10 09:08 PM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: edcrash1]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
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Loc: El Cajon, California
Cool! I really like mine. It allows me to use my HT speakers with my vintage integrated amp. How are you going to use your ICBM?
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#83522 - 04/30/10 09:51 AM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: AvFan]
edcrash1 Offline
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Registered: 06/26/08
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Loc: Fairfield, CT (Suburb of NYC)
AvFan, I plan to use my ICBM for bass management on my outdoor Zone 2 system. Based on various discussions I have had in here, I am splitting my Outlaw 990's Zone 2 output for inside and outside use. The Zone 2 inside portion is connected to an impedence correcting 6 zone speaker selector for inside ambiance stereo ceiling speakers in 6 separate downstairs zones in my house, without any subwoofer (but usually the main system and subwoofers are on so I get decent bass throughout the downstairs). The Zone 2 outside portion will be connected first to the ICBM then connected to a Russound DPA 6.12 12 zone 50 watt per channel distribution amplifier (that I picked up for $500 on Audiogon!). At the Russound amp, I will bridge all the channels to have 6 100 watt channels. I will connect the ICBM stereo (mid and high end) outputs to the buss/distribution input of the Russound amp and power 2 separate outside stereo zones at 100 watts per channel and running 2 Boston Acoustics RK8T2 rock speakers (4 speakers total) in each stereo zone. I will also connect the ICBM subwoofer output to one direct channel input of the Russound amp and power 1 subwoofer at 100 watts (right now I am leaning toward either the Boston Acoustics Voyager outdoor sub, the Rockustics Sub Jr., or perhaps some other outdoor subwoofer). At some future point, I will likely take the sub off the Russound Amp, and connect the sub to its own 200 watt (or more) amp, and add a third outside stereo zone onto the Russound amp. I can't wait to hear how this turns out!

Ed.
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Outlaw 990/7700/2200(2)
NHT M6(3)/L5(4)/U2(2)/A1(2)/X1
Samsung LN-T5265F(LCD)/BD-P1200 (BluRay)
Apple TV w/750 gb HD music server
Universal MX-810
Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR
Blue Jeans Cables

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#83527 - 04/30/10 11:46 AM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: edcrash1]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
Your intended use makes my simple stereo high/low pass look a little pedestrian! I don't know if there is any other product that could do what the ICBM is going to do for you in that set up. Maybe something on the pro audio product... When you get it all hooked up you will certainly be able to rock (pun intended) your whole house! Let me know how it turns out.
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#83543 - 05/01/10 07:22 AM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: AvFan]
PeterT Offline
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Registered: 11/19/05
Posts: 263
When we designed the ICBM several years ago, out of a very real need in early DVD players, we never anticipated that years later it would become a valuable (and useful) collector's item .

We have always debated whether or not to return to this area with a 7.2 version, We are still not convinced that there is enough interest to move ahead. However, these threads always make us think about it.

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#83549 - 05/01/10 09:35 AM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: PeterT]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
I will say ICBMs don't last long on ebay or Audiogon when they occasionally show up. I searched a number of audio forums until I found one for sale and most of the ones I've seen ran above 50% of the price new and tended towards 75%. It is a very versatile piece of gear that is flexible enough to allow its use in a simple stereo setup and in a really complex way like Edcrash1's. All this makes me wonder if the ICBM is a collectors item or they are an integral part of folks systems and that is why very few of them show up for sale.
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#83754 - 05/20/10 04:15 PM Re: Anyone Have an ICBM That They are Not Using? [Re: PeterT]
zaracsan Offline
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Registered: 05/20/10
Posts: 2
Originally Posted By: PeterT
When we designed the ICBM several years ago, out of a very real need in early DVD players, we never anticipated that years later it would become a valuable (and useful) collector's item .

We have always debated whether or not to return to this area with a 7.2 version, We are still not convinced that there is enough interest to move ahead. However, these threads always make us think about it.


My feeling is, that your are greatly underestimating the need for an ICBM 7.2v. I only bothered registering to post here, because I've been chasing down a used ICBM, but really would rather a 7.2.v instead. With the economy in the shape that it is, the market cries out for a product that could breath new life in to audio equipement that would have simply been upgrade in years past. More people than ever, are looking for ways to keep up with changing standards, without having to dump what they currently have.

I'm one of those people. A few years ago I bought a brand new NHT Controller. This was a 2k+ processor that was born out of the short-lived NHT-Vinci Labs partnership. At the time, it offered very forward thinking gear, with a promised upgrade path for the coming 1.3 standard. It still remains a very high quality piece, which plays nicely (processor and amps 'talk' to each other) with matching 5 and 2 channel NHT (Vinci built with B&O Ice parts) Class D amps. They even designed in special EQ curves for NHT speakers. This was especially appealing to me, as I'm running seven NHT M6 speakers and two complete U2 sub systems.

The whole system would be fine, were it not for the fact that I have no bass management, if I use the analog 7.1 connections from a BR player. Lacking the ability to process more recent codecs via the processor, I'm sort of forced to use a BR player to do the decoding, if I want to make use of the best playback choices. Were you to build an ICBM 7.2v, you would solve my problem, and I wouldn't be forced to consider migrating to another processor. I say this, knowing Outlaw is not a greedy soleless corporation, that is made giddy by such thoughts. Offering us an ICBM 7.2v would be a great kindness for many in the audio community.

I'm not the only one with this problem. I've been following a nearly five year old thread on the AVS speaker forum, that recently discussed using an ICBM as a work around. (See here, starting with post #8680)I have to believe there are many other quality processors that would likewise have their usefull life extended, were you to build an ICBM 7.2v. I would much prefer this product than trying to get by with the original ICBM.

If you build it, they WILL come. The marketplace would likely embrace your product with open arms. I personally, would be eternally grateful.

Thank you in advance for giving this idea further consideration.

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