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#86362 - 03/06/11 08:39 AM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Sirquack]
XenonMan Offline
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The performance of your system is not going to get much better by kicking the Pioneer out the door and replacing it with separates. The extra wattage available isn't enough to justify the expenditure. With two powered subs and efficient speakers the AVR isn't working very hard at all to provide the power to drive your 7.1 speakers. Remember that the heavy lifting of the low frequency stuff is being done by the subs amps which leaves the Pioneer lots of headroom to drive the other speakers to insane levels. You would be better served buying the Radioshack Sound meter and adjusting your room than going to separates, IMHO.
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APC H15 Power Conditioner

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Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


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Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#86379 - 03/06/11 03:13 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Sirquack]
jeanpaulfitness1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/11
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Loc: Marion, MA / USA
I have a 26x24 room with nine foot ceilings, and one of the reasons I am assuming that a class a/b amp with an enourmous soundstage, enourmous dynamic range, and width and depth of the frontal sound stage would have cleaner sound.
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oppo bdp95
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monster power htps7000
LSiM707 l/r, polk lsim 706 center, LSiM702F/X sur l/r and surr back l/r

logitech harmony 1100 universal remote
Fios digital cable box
bluejeans xlr cables
monoprice hdmi(silverplated) cables
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#86384 - 03/06/11 10:11 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: jeanpaulfitness1]
Sirquack Offline
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My room is 30 x 31 x 9, and currently my Denon 3808ci does a good job.
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#86394 - 03/07/11 05:24 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Sirquack]
XenonMan Offline
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I am sure all the superlative comments also apply to the SC-07. You can adjust the output of the Pioneer to enhance all of the sound stage effects you mentioned. Another 60 watts isn't going to dramatically change that situation. Can you use the wide and high channels on the Pioneer? That may change your stage but you can reposition your mains and change the effect also. Play around with speaker positions and settings on the Pioneer before you jump into the separates boat with both feet.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#86488 - 03/13/11 04:43 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: XenonMan]
jeanpaulfitness1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/11
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Loc: Marion, MA / USA
Thanks for the input. I'm leaning more towards the 7900 amp. Do you think Outlaw will come out with a new amp this year?
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samsung pn64d-8000
outlaw amp 7900
yamaha cxa-5000
oppo bdp95
Playstation 4
2 velodyne sub-woofers optimum 12 series
monster power htps7000
LSiM707 l/r, polk lsim 706 center, LSiM702F/X sur l/r and surr back l/r

logitech harmony 1100 universal remote
Fios digital cable box
bluejeans xlr cables
monoprice hdmi(silverplated) cables
samsung blutooth active 3d glasses (ssg-3100gb)

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#86493 - 03/13/11 08:27 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: jeanpaulfitness1]
nomoneybutgoodsound Offline
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Registered: 07/21/06
Posts: 164
Loc: Mission,BC
Thats a lot of amplifier with some implications in terms of being able to power it. I would think there are few times where that kind of power is needed and even fewer who have two 15 amp circuits available, additionally, the Law of Diminishing Returns may apply. Value just being a mouse click away may not apply with the 7900. But if you got the cash and the circuits - why not, it would be very cool.

Is there a need to come out with a new amp? It would seem that they have the market covered in terms of wattage. 2/3 channel can be covered with monoblocks.

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#86515 - 03/14/11 08:51 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: nomoneybutgoodsound]
XenonMan Offline
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Your speakers are rated at 90 db efficient and up to 200 watts of power handling. At 6 ohms the 7900 is capable of toasting your speakers with more than 300 watts of power. Why would you think you need to go to the 7900 vice a 7700? Seems like overkill to me but if you need it you need it!!
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#86519 - 03/15/11 01:53 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: XenonMan]
jeanpaulfitness1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/11
Posts: 9
Loc: Marion, MA / USA
According to Outlaw they use the same speaker system with the 7900 amp.
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samsung pn64d-8000
outlaw amp 7900
yamaha cxa-5000
oppo bdp95
Playstation 4
2 velodyne sub-woofers optimum 12 series
monster power htps7000
LSiM707 l/r, polk lsim 706 center, LSiM702F/X sur l/r and surr back l/r

logitech harmony 1100 universal remote
Fios digital cable box
bluejeans xlr cables
monoprice hdmi(silverplated) cables
samsung blutooth active 3d glasses (ssg-3100gb)

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#86523 - 03/15/11 09:09 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: jeanpaulfitness1]
XenonMan Offline
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Literally, more power to ya!! The 7900 is a beast and will power anything you connect to it for years to come. I highly recommend a quality rack to put it in. It weighs as much as two bags of cement.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#86569 - 03/20/11 07:34 AM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Albert]
crunch Offline
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Registered: 02/07/10
Posts: 1
I've had the 7700 for a year now..Great amp but you need to be in shape to lift it...its a brute. I'm running Snell AII mains with definnitive tech surrounds. I have it paired with a onkyo PR-sr5507 preamp/processor. I was a little worried about heat since I have it in a rather tight enclosure but it has not once had a problem and surprizingly it doesn't get that hot.

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