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#81425 - 10/15/09 02:51 AM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
gonk Offline
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What the current situation (with Outlaw, SN and, honestly, the rest of the consumer audio industry at present) tells me is that these pre/pros and receivers are becoming profoundly complicated pieces of digital circuity.
This is a very true statement. I think it's very telling that both Lexicon and Anthem have elected to basically refine, rehash, and revise a single platform in an effort to stay current with the changes. It's also telling that both companies have raised the price of their processors by 50% to 100% along the way.
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Perhaps the consumer HT industry needs to start rethinking it's "planned obsolescence" strategy of introducing new formats, circuits, processing modes, and connectors to motivate buyers to replace their equipment. If they don't, it will become impossible for anyone to get out hardware in a timely way. (Note that the video console industry is starting to think this way. It appears that the PS3 and Xbox 360 may have extended lifespans, compared to the five-year cycle that has been the norm.)
I've been thinking about this lately, too. We've reached a point where the level of complexity (both setup and even just reading the feature list) is almost a limiting factor for the average consumer. The industry needs to pause and evaluate where it is. I don't have much faith that it actually will (the push for 3D certainly shows no signs of that), but I think both manufacturers and consumers could benefit from a little thoughtful assessment of the situation...
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#81426 - 10/24/09 07:33 PM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
Windmiller Offline
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Registered: 05/28/08
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Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
I am in no hurry either and will wait patiently smile

The one thing I think would be cool since it is so close is a picture of the unit.

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#81427 - 10/25/09 11:33 PM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
vläd Offline
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Registered: 11/18/08
Posts: 21
Loc: Southwest Desert USA
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Originally posted by gonk:
... We've reached a point where the level of complexity (both setup and even just reading the feature list) is almost a limiting factor for the average consumer. The industry needs to pause and evaluate where it is. I don't have much faith that it actually will (the push for 3D certainly shows no signs of that), but I think both manufacturers and consumers could benefit from a little thoughtful assessment of the situation...
Nothing like getting over run by the wheels of technology! I agree that the industry needs to stop and re-evaluate. The frequency that the technology changes occur needs to slow their frantic race to market speed.

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#81428 - 10/26/09 01:48 AM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
Jimmy Harmon Offline
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Registered: 07/25/05
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Loc: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Emotiva is saying they just gave the green light for production of the UMC-1 with the first units hitting the States by mid-November ... hopefully the 997 isn't far behind ... the two should provide a healthy dose of competition for one another.
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#81429 - 10/29/09 09:19 PM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
Alex Prosak Offline
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Registered: 01/07/03
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Given the large difference in price points I don't really consider them direct competitors.

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#81430 - 10/30/09 05:51 PM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
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Well, I am pretty sure Outlaw does. The UMC-1 is cheaper for a reason.
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#81431 - 11/01/09 07:40 PM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
suffolk112000 Offline
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Registered: 05/18/05
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Loc: Jackson MI
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Originally posted by XenonMan:
Well, I am pretty sure Outlaw does. The UMC-1 is cheaper for a reason.
Really...?
Please tell me why...!

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#81432 - 11/01/09 08:40 PM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
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Well,
both companies deal only over the internet, both have very good reputations, both offer big bang for the buck in both amps, AVR and pre/pros. Both are currently getting ready to introduce new flagship components geared towards beating the big names like Onkyo, Yamaha, Sony and others. Both have great followings on the net and are frequently compared to one another by people getting ready to buy or upgrade. They are like the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers, in the same neighborhood and naturally rivals.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#81433 - 11/02/09 02:31 AM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
Ritz2 Offline
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Registered: 01/27/09
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Loc: Virginia
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Originally posted by XenonMan:
Well,
both companies deal only over the internet, both have very good reputations, both offer big bang for the buck in both amps, AVR and pre/pros. Both are currently getting ready to introduce new flagship components geared towards beating the big names like Onkyo, Yamaha, Sony and others. Both have great followings on the net and are frequently compared to one another by people getting ready to buy or upgrade. They are like the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers, in the same neighborhood and naturally rivals.
Both will have their "flagship" pre/processors produced under contract in China. No thanks.
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#81434 - 11/02/09 03:39 AM Re: Sherwood 972 shipping
gonk Offline
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Both companies are internet-direct, certainly, but that doesn't make these two specific products direct competitors. The UMC-1 is not Emotiva's flagship product - that will be the XMC-1, due at some point in the future.
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