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#77828 - 05/26/07 04:06 AM Line Conditioner
cp1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/20/07
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Loc: Minneapolis
Interesting responses. I am happy with the results so far. I may give it a try (plugging it into the outlet directly) but I do like the piece of mind.
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#77829 - 05/26/07 01:46 PM Re: Line Conditioner
Alexandru Mihaita Offline
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Registered: 04/17/07
Posts: 132
Loc: Springfield, PA
If peace of mind means surge protection only, I suggest a surge protector that is installed at electrical panel level.
I have one. Sure, it doesn't come with any promise to compensate for eventiual damage to your equipment, but it's $35 and protects the entire house.
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#77830 - 05/26/07 03:25 PM Re: Line Conditioner
gonk Offline
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Whole-house surge protection is a good idea, but which panel surge protector is available for $35? The ones I've heard about run a fair bit more than that and require an electrician to install.
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#77831 - 05/26/07 07:06 PM Re: Line Conditioner
Alexandru Mihaita Offline
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Registered: 04/17/07
Posts: 132
Loc: Springfield, PA
Gonk, I guess you're right. I cited the price I've paid 5 years ago, my bad. Today, Home Depot has them now for $200, better ones I guess. see here . I've also installed the thing myself.
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#77832 - 05/26/07 07:17 PM Re: Line Conditioner
Alexandru Mihaita Offline
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Registered: 04/17/07
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Loc: Springfield, PA
But one might want to check this one out here
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#77833 - 05/27/07 03:38 AM Re: Line Conditioner
cp1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/20/07
Posts: 221
Loc: Minneapolis
Sorry everyone for this double post. The first one above was to have been a response to the original post.

Sorry!
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#77834 - 05/28/07 02:32 AM Re: Line Conditioner
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Registered: 07/03/05
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That Home Depot part isn't really a "whole house" solution. It can only accept 12AWG wiring so it's really only useful for one circuit.

The other MOV-based solution isn't workable either since it is a one-time only solution for large surges. MOVs work by "falling on their sword" when their maximum joule rating is exceeded. They also slowly degrade over time as they shunt voltage over their clamping voltage to ground. (at least that's how I remember it....it's been a long time since engineering school). smile

Lastly, surges coming in from outside your home are one issue. There are also quite a lot of surges within your home when A/C compressors go on and off or your refrigerator's compressor goes on/off, etc.

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#77835 - 05/28/07 05:26 AM Re: Line Conditioner
tmdlp Offline
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Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 215
Loc: Big D, Tx
An example of what Ritz is talking about: Brickwall .
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#77836 - 05/28/07 11:20 PM Re: Line Conditioner
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 547
Loc: NJ/Beijing
After having some conversations with the Brickwall folks, I opted for a case of their surge protectors in a couple of recording studio environments. I've been pretty happy with them. We're using these:

http://brickwall.thomasnet.com/item/audi...raud?&forward=1

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#77837 - 06/06/07 08:22 PM Re: Line Conditioner
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Registered: 04/20/07
Posts: 221
Loc: Minneapolis
Runing my 7700 thru my Monster Power 2600, along with a Denon 3803, a DVD player and a DirecTV Tivo HD receiver, I was pulling 2 amps (via the LED on the Monster 2600)/

When I cranked the volume WAY UP during a HDTV broadcast with Dolby Digital to an insane level, the LEDs indicated only a 4 amp total draw.

I would NOT listen to any movie or concert DVD at this level. However, I may attempt it again with my SPL meter to see how loud it really can get! smile
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