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#82224 - 01/26/10 01:08 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: og33]
EEman Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Canton, MI
I'm having the same problem with my 970/7075 combo although I have to be pretty close to my speakers to hear the hiss.

1. It sounds a lot like the hiss from the old cassette tapes and only occurs on the tweeters.
2. It occurs no matter what input is active even on input with nothing attached.
3. It is somewhat linear with respect to the volume knob position (As I go from min to max on the volume knob it starts out constant than at about half way up it starts to get louder until it's pretty obnoxious).

I'm guessing the noise is being generated internally to the 970.

It's either a poor job of decoupling the DC power supply which I can't do anything about.
OR
It's noise being injected through the back panel ports. I'm thinking about trying some RCA Shorting Caps on the unsed inputs. Other forums point to unused RCA-type digital audio inputs as prime noise generators as they are high bandwidth inputs.

I've ordered a handful of these to try out:

RCA Port Cover/Shorting Cap

I'll post again after I try them out.
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#82225 - 01/26/10 03:19 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: EEman]
og33 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/30/07
Posts: 185
Loc: White Cloud, Michigan
EEman,
That exactly describes what I'm experiencing. Let me know how those work out. Since they are a cheap fix I'll be ordering some too if that solves the problem.

John


Edited by og33 (01/26/10 03:20 PM)
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#82226 - 01/26/10 04:26 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: og33]
wolverine Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 11/29/05
Posts: 110
Loc: Ann Arbor
Do you have dimmers on the lights in this room or nearby? I had hiss from this with an amp that seemed to be prone to this sort of interference.

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#82229 - 01/26/10 07:21 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: wolverine]
og33 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/30/07
Posts: 185
Loc: White Cloud, Michigan
Nope, don't have any dimmer switches in my house at all.
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#82240 - 01/26/10 11:59 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: og33]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Do you have an antenna hooked up for the tuner and is it grounded? Try removing the antenna and listen for the hiss. The 970 does not have a grounded plug so maybe your have a ground loop somewhere in the system. If any of your gear has a 3 prong plug, pull the plug and try the system. Have you switched the bass management switch? Does it change the sound if you do? Also, make sure all of the rear panel connection points are clean and clear of any debris which could be shorting them out. With EVERYTHING disconnected from the 970, except the outputs to the 7500, is the noise there? Does the volume increase when you turn up the power? If so, call Outlaw. They have a lot of experience with ground loops and all sorts of other stuff. They will help you out.
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#82256 - 01/28/10 09:44 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: XenonMan]
EEman Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Canton, MI
The shorting caps were not the solution.
I also tried XenonMan's suggestions and none of them changed the characteristics of the noise.
Back to the drawing board...
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#82258 - 01/28/10 10:29 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: EEman]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Sounds like the 970 needs some time at home with the Outlaws. Is it still under warranty?
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#82260 - 01/29/10 11:38 AM Re: speaker hiss [Re: XenonMan]
og33 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/30/07
Posts: 185
Loc: White Cloud, Michigan
I unplugged my 970 from the Belkin surge protector/power strip and plugged it directly into the wall. No change. Guess I will have to call Outlaw next week (mine is still under warranty). Just hate to have to send it back (if that's the remedy).
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Salk HT-1TL's
Apple TV
Beresford 7520 DAC
Surgex XS10

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#82345 - 02/04/10 05:17 PM Re: speaker hiss [Re: og33]
og33 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/30/07
Posts: 185
Loc: White Cloud, Michigan
Talked to Scott...my 970 is going to take a trip back to the Outlaws.
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Salk Songbirds, SongCenter, SongSurrounds
Panasonic BDP-45
Outlaw LFM-2

2 Channel:
Red Dragon M-500 monoblocks
BAT-VK3i
Salk HT-1TL's
Apple TV
Beresford 7520 DAC
Surgex XS10

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