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#74895 - 12/05/05 10:11 PM 950 and 970 Differences?
FAUguy Offline
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I bought a 950 off eBay about 3 months ago and have been extremely happy with the unit.
I have been looking over the specs for the new 970, but the only main difference I see is the DVI inputs.
I do not need DVI or HDMI because my Panasonic CT-37HX41 HDTV does not have those inputs (only component).

Are there any other differences that I am missing?
I downloaded the PDF Manual for the 970 and it reads basically the same as the 950 manual.

One thing that would be nice (that I whish the 950 did) was when using the CD Analog Bypass input, you have to select Bypass each time.
It would be great if you could have Bypass as the Default.
I have a Cal Audio Labs Sigma-2 DAC for CD decoding.

Thanks.

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#74896 - 12/05/05 10:13 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
FAUguy Offline
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One thing I forgot, my 950 still has 3 years left on the 5 year warranty.
The new 970 only had a 2 year warranty. What's with that?

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#74897 - 12/05/05 10:41 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
Scott Offline
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Just a quick FYI, the manual on the site incorrectly lists the warranty as two years. The actual warranty is 3 years.

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#74898 - 12/05/05 11:45 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
FAUguy Offline
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Ok. Three years is better than two, but wonder why it's no longer five year warranty.

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#74899 - 12/05/05 11:58 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
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There's a pretty good list going in another thread here in the forum, looking at the differences between the 950 and the 970. There are actually quite a few of them.

  • Pro Logic IIx processing
  • Dolby Headphone processing (and a headphone jack)
  • a third component video input
  • transcoding of s-video and composite video to the component vidoe output
  • discrete speaker distance settings for all eight channels (seven full range and the sub)
  • options for digital bass management, analog bass management, or pure pass-through on the 7.1 analog input
  • quadruple crossover instead of triple
  • RS232 port for firmware updates
  • AV sync delay setting, individually adjustable for each input

That may help you make you compare the two. Also, the 990 interface does allow you to define an input as "bypass" automatically; I think the 1070 and 970 share this trait (it was a common request from 950 owners).
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#74900 - 12/06/05 04:28 AM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
jmartin Offline
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Registered: 07/13/03
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Loc: Rancho Cordova, CA, USA
This unit looks too good to be true. Does the 970 upconvert component to DVI? Also, if both the componet andthe DVI are connected is it possible to use a component input on the TV at the same time the DVI is connected? I would like to do a comparison without having to remove the DVI cable.

This is the processor I have been waiting for! I prefer to use a MC/MM phonograph preamp (Parasound). I have never desired balanced inputs, and don't need and would not use a second zone. I will be happy to allow a higher end Universal DVD player instead of relying on up conversion. What great stop gap before the next real standardizations of HDMI and HD sources! Thank you Outlaws!

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#74901 - 12/06/05 07:32 AM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
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The 970 does not convert analog (s-video, composite, component) video to digital (DVI). I'm not sure how the switching in the 1070/970 works (my 990 works somewhat differently), but since it is pre-defined you may be able to hook both DVI and component cables from a source that allows both outputs at once (which is not universally true - my HD cable box is finicky about it) and run both component and DVI monitor outputs to your display. A 1070 owner may be able to tell you more about that.
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#74902 - 12/06/05 05:21 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
FAUguy Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 247
Loc: FL
Quote:
Originally posted by gonk:
There are actually quite a few of them.

  • Pro Logic IIx processing
  • Dolby Headphone processing (and a headphone jack)
  • a third component video input
  • transcoding of s-video and composite video to the component vidoe output
  • discrete speaker distance settings for all eight channels (seven full range and the sub)
  • options for digital bass management, analog bass management, or pure pass-through on the 7.1 analog input
  • quadruple crossover instead of triple
  • RS232 port for firmware updates
  • AV sync delay setting, individually adjustable for each input

That may help you make you compare the two. Also, the 990 interface does allow you to define an input as "bypass" automatically; I think the 1070 and 970 share this trait (it was a common request from 950 owners).
Ok, thanks for the info. I didn't know it had that many improvements.
I'm not sure what a "quadruple crossover" is.
I do hope that the Bypass mode can be selected as a defualt.

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#74903 - 12/06/05 05:58 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
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"Quadruple crossover" refers to the way the unit's digital bass management is structured. Basically, there are four separate digital crossovers - one for the mains, one for the center, one for the side surrounds, and one for the rear surrounds. Each can be adjusted independently to match up with the speakers used in that position. The 950 has a "triple crossover" (mains, center, and surrounds).

Somebody with a 1070 may be able to tell you how the bypass mode works - the 970 manual indicates that it's a little different than the 990.
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#74904 - 12/07/05 07:18 PM Re: 950 and 970 Differences?
FAUguy Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 247
Loc: FL
Quote:
Originally posted by gonk:
"Quadruple crossover" refers to the way the unit's digital bass management is structured. Basically, there are four separate digital crossovers - one for the mains, one for the center, one for the side surrounds, and one for the rear surrounds. Each can be adjusted independently to match up with the speakers used in that position. The 950 has a "triple crossover" (mains, center, and surrounds).
Ok Thanks.
Now that the 970s are shipping, I hope we can get some reviews of it in the next week or so.

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