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#73171 - 09/28/07 05:51 AM 1070 - No Sub output with 7.1 - Fixed!
Tom899 Offline
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Registered: 06/11/06
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Loc: Michigan
I have a Denon DVD2200. I decided to try out the Analogue outputs for a change. I cannot get the sub to work. I have tried the bass management toggle switch in the rear of the 1070 in all three positions. My Denon 2200 has all the speakers set to small and Sub On. I even tried boosting +10dB sub setting. I also cycled through the pink noise within the Denon 2200, all speakers work except the sub. I turned up the 1070 volume to 0dB with the Denon 2200 +10dB boost and if I put my ear up to the sub I can just barely hear a very slight rumble. I double checked the cables and even swapped one from another channel. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tom

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#73172 - 09/28/07 12:05 PM Re: 1070 - No Sub output with 7.1 - Fixed!
gonk Offline
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Try setting the Denon's speakers to "large" and leaving the sub on - the 2200's bass management may be messing with you. Then set the 1070's switch to "HPF/LPF". At that point, you might try a test disc (even something as simple as my DTD could work, although tones from a disc like AVIA or Digital Video Essentials would be even better since they'd offer a subwoofer channel as well as the full range channels).
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#73173 - 09/28/07 11:00 PM Re: 1070 - No Sub output with 7.1 - Fixed!
Tom899 Offline
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Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Michigan
Hi Gonk - I will try this, and let you know. I do have both AVIA and Digital Video Essentials. Before the 1070 I had a Yamaha receiver and the Denon DVD-2200 worked in analogue mode, but that was 1 1/2 years ago. After I have exhausted every possibility I'm going to bring out the Yamaha to see if the Denon is faulty, which I hope it is, and not the 1070. The reason I'm even trying this is I'm going to be getting a new Samsung BD-UP5000 Combo HD & BR player when itís released next month. I understand the High definition audio formats will only be transmitted through HDMI 1.3 and analogue, so I'm making sure the 1070 analogue feature is in order. I also talked with Ed today. We have a few things to try. Thanks Gonk, I will give an update this evening.
Tom

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#73174 - 09/29/07 01:03 AM Re: 1070 - No Sub output with 7.1 - Fixed!
Tom899 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Michigan
Ok - this is what I found. I hooked up my Yamaha and I had sub output at the external sub out port, but, not very much, maybe 73dB, even with the volume all the way up. I hooked it back up to the 1070 and turned the volume all the way up, I could just barely hear it, but it was outputting bass non the less. So, I started to think about this. My two subs are made by Energy. The bypass mode on the subs input is what I always used and worked fine in the digital domain. The problem with these Energy subs bypass mode is besides defeating the crossover it also defeats the volume control! And I have no idea what that volume is. So, I thought I would plug the cables into the ports that allow me to control crossover and volume. Guess what, I was able to bring the volume up to match the mains. Very poor design on Energy's part. I will be replacing these subs. This confused me because they work fine with coax/fiber optic. Basically the analogue out on the Yamaha has higher out voltage than the 1070, which probably doesn't matter, unless you have goofy subs like I have. Oh well, I'm pretty sure everything is ok? I will find out for sure with a new sub and HD/BR DVD player.
Thanks for your concern and help. I will call Ed Monday.
Tom

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#73175 - 11/26/07 05:03 AM Re: 1070 - No Sub output with 7.1 - Fixed!
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
Tom,

I have a Denon DVD and when I use it to decode movies instead opf the 1070 I seem to loose the sub.

I have the toggle switch set to HPF/LFP and use bypass mode.

Any ideas?
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