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#68026 - 06/03/08 01:25 AM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
audionirvana Offline
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Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 43
Loc: Iowa
Thanks FAUguy
I spoke with Scott and if I understood him correctly the V3.11 update was in the folder for the current firmware update and apparently I accidentally installed that.
So we try again.
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#68027 - 06/06/08 03:00 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
wolverine Offline
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Registered: 11/29/05
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Since this is probably the last word on the 990, I think it would be useful to see a bass management matrix for the 7.1 direct inputs. I know what happens if you set all the speakers to SMALL and the SUB is essentially yes. There are many other possible combinations, but short of a whole matrix, I do have two specific questions.

If one sets the center and surrounds to SMALL with appropriate crossover frequencies, and the fronts to LARGE, what actually happens to 7.1 direct for the different sub settings +SUB, LFE or NO?

Are there any combinations of settings for any/all the speakers (size and delay distance) when the 990 would not apply the extra A/D and D/A to any of the speakers (like the fronts) and would pass any parts of the 7.1 direct input through as completely unprocessed analog?

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#68028 - 06/06/08 04:20 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Here's my understanding: if any speakers are set to small, bass management is applied to the 7.1 direct input using the exact same logic as with any digital input or non-bypassed analog input.
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#68029 - 06/07/08 02:45 AM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
rubbersoul Offline
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Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
I tried to download the upgrade.
I made a folder designated to the 990.
I unzipped the files that read 14 files successfully unzipped.
This is some what different from what the instructions are telling me. Click through the pages as needed. I never seen it.

What am I missing?
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#68030 - 06/07/08 02:56 AM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
Lee Bailey Offline
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Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 86
Loc: Madera,CA.USA
Launch the setup file you saw in the files you unzipped. This will install the Loader Software. Once it is installed, you will see it on your start programs listing. Depending on how you attach to your 990, you may have to install the USB driver.

Once you are connected, you will have to select the firmware located in the C:\Program Files\Outlaw Audio Model 990\Firmware folder. It should be 990_3_24.BIN
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#68031 - 06/07/08 03:11 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
zod Offline
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Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 32
I used the same PC as I did two years ago. When I connected the Outlaw via USB I did not get the new hardware install setup box. I'm not sure what windows did but a driver was associated with the device that I had to uninstall. After that, all went as expected.

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#68032 - 06/07/08 05:33 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
rubbersoul Offline
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Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
The upgrade loader is on my screen and I clicked onto the File Open key and from there clicked onto 990 3 24 which now appears on the upgrade loader screen.
I clicked on the UPGRADE button and a bar appears that looks as if it is uploading files. At that point a box appears saying DEVICE RESTART/OK
Am I doing something wrong or am I ready to shut the 990 down and go to the next step?
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#68033 - 06/07/08 10:47 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
Petey B Offline
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Registered: 03/19/06
Posts: 31
Loc: Baltimore
rubbersoul,
Same thing happened to me.
You should be good to go.

PeteyB

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#68034 - 06/07/08 10:51 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
cp1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/20/07
Posts: 221
Loc: Minneapolis
Quote:
Originally posted by rubbersoul:
The upgrade loader is on my screen and I clicked onto the File Open key and from there clicked onto 990 3 24 which now appears on the upgrade loader screen.
I clicked on the UPGRADE button and a bar appears that looks as if it is uploading files. At that point a box appears saying DEVICE RESTART/OK
Am I doing something wrong or am I ready to shut the 990 down and go to the next step?
Double check the instructions. I think I had the same problem my first attempt. I think you are suppose to turn the master power switch on and off again very fast (within one second) and then try iy again.

I am pretty sure this message (Restart device) is discussed in the instructions.


EDIT:

Yup, I found it. About 3/4 down in the instructions;

"IMPORTANT NOTE: In the event that an error occurs during the upgrade, the process will stop and a pop-up box will appear with a “Device (Outlaw) Restart!” message. If this happens check the data connection cable, click on the “OK” button within the pop-up and then turn the Model 990 Off and then On again within one second. Click on the Upgrade button in the software loader and restart the process from Step 7."

This did happen to me. I turned the master power off and then on again very quickley, and then ot worked fine.

Good luck!
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#68035 - 06/08/08 03:08 PM Re: New Firmware Update Questions
rubbersoul Offline
Desperado

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
Thanks you cp1966 and Petey B I did not have the 990 connected to my laptop.

Just to get this straight as of now I just have to shut off the 990 (Master Stwitch)put the OPR/SVC switch in the down position (SVC)
Reconnect or turn on the master power switch follow instructions per USB/RS-232

Question: I am correct that I DO NOT turn the 990 on while doing this procedure.

Thanks for the patience. Certianly you guys have notice I am not to comfortable with computers.
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Da-Lite Screen,
Oppo BDP93
Comcast
PS Audio DSD
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