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#67002 - 01/14/08 12:32 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
Brandon B Offline
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Registered: 05/01/02
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I'm gonna have to take issue with the word suck. The 9.8/885 does a decent job on 2 channel in the digital arena. Will a good 2 ch dedicatd pre do better? Sure. But it sure does not suck.

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#67003 - 01/16/08 02:17 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
cp1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/20/07
Posts: 221
Loc: Minneapolis
I have heard the Integra 9.8 does a great job as a pre-pro. People over at avsforum.com sure seem to like it, and I am still contemplating getting one.

It would be nice to have an Outlaw pre-pro for its quality/price, but I sure want the HDMI ASAP!
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#67004 - 01/17/08 03:25 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
chili555 Offline
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Registered: 12/10/06
Posts: 3
Loc: South Carolina, by the lake
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Such movie nutcases! Music is what matters and moves the soul, not movies.
I enjoy both and my Outlaw is not my preamp of choice for music. However, the moment Outlaw offers an HDMI 1.3 pre/pro, my credit card and I will be in line.

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#67005 - 01/24/08 01:57 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
alphanstein Offline
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 116
Loc: San Diego, CA
Small tidbits in this article that may lend some insight onto what is coming via Outlaw, see the Sherwood section:
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6517476.html?industryid=23100

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#67006 - 01/24/08 02:12 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
alphanstein: That is a very interesting bit of info. Do we know if Outlaw is staying with their current OEM? It is amazing what is now being included in receivers processors. Not all that long ago the audio processor/video switcher and a stand alone video processor would set you back thousands of bucks each. Now they are being rolled together for $1500 to $2000; all I can say is "Wow". I'm anxious to find out what features Outlaw will include in their new flagship processor.
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#67007 - 01/24/08 04:10 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
It looks like the relevent portion is this:
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A pair of delayed top-end AV receivers will also be shown, both with HDMI 1.3 inputs, 1080p up-scaling, and internal decoding of all surround formats authorized for use on Blu-ray and HD DVD discs. The R-872 at $999 will be delivered in quantity in February. The R-972 flagship, now due in March, will go up in price to a suggested $1,799 from the previously planned $1,499 because of a resdesign that includes an upgraded video processor, Silicon Optix's Reon, and a more advanced room-correction system, the Trinnov Optimizer system.
I've actually been occasionally checking in on an AVS thread about these two receivers for a while, and there is some question there about the delivery date for these (particularly the 972) - the question there is whether the arrival time frame is March or May.

As for whether Outlaw will be partnering with Etronics again, we don't know anything definitive. There was some talk in another thread suggesting that a Sherwood rep at CES had hinted as much, but I don't know that it was anything I'd put money on.
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#67008 - 01/24/08 04:34 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
AvFan Offline
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If Outlaw is working with Etronics I wonder if the Sherwood and Outlaw designs would be completed in parallel. My hope is they are moving along at the same time and a new "990" will be available early this summer.

I think the used gear market has already responded to the release of a new Outlaw pre/pro and Outlaw's recent price drop on the 990. 990s are selling for at least a couple of hundred less on eBay than they did a few months ago. Outlaw's offer to knock off $200 of the price of the new pre/pro will take up some of the slack in 990's resale value.
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#67009 - 01/24/08 09:46 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
gonk Offline
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A price drop always yields a corresponding drop in resale value - the same happened with the 950 each time it received a price decrease. The consumer clamor for HDMI v1.3 product is only going to make that trend more apparent this time around...
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#67010 - 02/22/08 05:34 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
sb-avnut Offline
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Registered: 05/09/06
Posts: 99
Loc: Chicago - W. Suburbs, IL
Does anyone know if the Cirrus 49700 (new rev) chip is out of sampling and in production?
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#67011 - 02/22/08 07:11 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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No idea...
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