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#61859 - 08/26/06 04:51 AM Upsampling
JW Offline
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For what inputs are you using Upsampling. I have set my CD and Tuner inputs to Upsample, but I'm not sure whether to use this setting for DVDs or Cable TV.

What do you think?
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#61860 - 08/26/06 06:18 AM Re: Upsampling
barend Offline
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I'm pretty sure you won't hear any difference.
Dunno about your Cable TV, but many recent DVD players employ 24/192 upsampling anyway, so there won't be any effect.
That said, I'm not a big fan of upsampling:
only the very best CD players succeed in avoiding sharp treble edges and shifty staging.
I have a cheap 16 bits 44 kHz DAC that sounds just fine.
But I didn't hear any ill effects when setting upsampling to ON in my 990, so the chip must be a benign variety...

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#61861 - 08/26/06 09:35 AM Re: Upsampling
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I use upsample for my CD input. Upsample can be overlayed on top of any source (PCM, Dolby Digital, or I think even DTS), but at that point you cannot apply additional processing such as Pro Logic IIx. Since I use PLIIx for cable TV and DVD's, I don't use upsample for those.
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#61862 - 08/26/06 11:46 AM Re: Upsampling
billyTHEkid Offline
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If yous set pusampling to dolby digital, does if first downmix to 2 chanel, or does it upsample all the chanels?
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#61863 - 08/26/06 02:50 PM Re: Upsampling
Skyblazer Offline
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Registered: 03/21/06
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Loc: Spokane, WA
i've tried upsampling while listening to some CD's. and i didn't notice any difference in sound quality.

i usually use bypass anyway..
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#61864 - 08/26/06 03:56 PM Re: Upsampling
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If you select upsampling while it is getting a Dolby Digital input, it upsamples the entire 5.1 signal. I'm not sure whether the upsampling comes before or after the decoding, but it does not downmix to two channels.
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#61865 - 09/06/06 10:25 AM Re: Upsampling
sportsound Offline
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Registered: 01/24/06
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Loc: Metrowest Boston
I've used the upsample overlayed on DD 5.1 and noticed a bit more clarity, which helps on DISH HD broadcasts, and some DVD's. Nice touch== it's not documented in the manual.
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#61866 - 09/06/06 01:03 PM Re: Upsampling
Steve0616 Offline
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Registered: 05/22/06
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How does it work? I only get two channels from upsampling.

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#61867 - 09/06/06 01:52 PM Re: Upsampling
FAUguy Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
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Loc: FL
I've only used the Upsampling on CDs.
I wasn't aware that it could be used with DD and DTS.

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#61868 - 09/06/06 02:47 PM Re: Upsampling
gonk Offline
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You can use upsample with DD 5.1 and I believe DTS as well, and you'll still get all 5.1 channels. The catch is that there's not enough CPU horsepower left to overlay additional processing modes, so if you have a 7.1 speaker setup you can't use Upsample and Pro Logic IIx together with a Dolby 5.1 source. As sportsound says, it's a slick little undocumented feature - and one that I'd probably use a lot with a 5.1 setup.
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