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#58843 - 03/27/06 01:12 PM Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
ZoFo Offline
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Now the MPS Amp does look impresive and I really like its Modular Design, but $2,500 for a Pre/Pro that does not have HDMI/DVI Switching or Auto-Setup and looks like something that you would find behind the bar in a Kansas City whorehouse? People complain that Outlaw's products are "too plain", take a look at the other side of the coin!

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_13_1/emotiva-dmc1-ssp-mps1-amp-3-2006-part-1.html

Would love to see how this Pre/Pro matches up to the 990 at over twice it's price!
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#58844 - 03/27/06 01:27 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
charlie Offline
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The amp seems to be seeing signifcant distortion before meeting it's maximum output spec, but it's still pretty good. Personally I think they should have called it a 150 or 175 watt amp. Maybe 250 @ 4 ohms.
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#58845 - 03/28/06 10:48 AM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
Rob Faulkner Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
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At those prices, its not really competition for Outlaw, in the sense of pricing.

-Rob

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#58846 - 03/28/06 11:42 AM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
Jed M Offline
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Registered: 05/02/02
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Drunkonjack sold his Emo for the 990, but ended up selling/returning the 990 to get another Emo. In his situation he liked the Emo better but at the price it doesn't really surprise me. I am sure there are others that may feel differently, but at this time he is the only one I know that have had both in their house.

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#58847 - 03/28/06 12:12 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
ZoFo Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
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Can anyone tell me why this Pre/Pro is selling for over twice that of a 990 from another Internet Direct Company? I have not done a detailed comparison yet with the DAC's and Processor but I just cannot see why they are charging this much, it does not have any features the 990 dosen't have.

I am looking at AV123 for some new speakers and from what I have heard they are a great company to do business with, excellent support & prices.
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#58848 - 03/28/06 12:18 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
Jed M Offline
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Remember, I could find a sub 1k receiver that has more features than the 990. Some of the most expensive, fine sounding gear are very minimalistic in design. I am sure even Outlaw would admit they could build a better pre/pro for more money without adding any features. Basically, it all comes down to where the point of diminishing returns gets you. It would probably only cost $100 dollars or less in shipping to hear the difference/non-difference in your own home.

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#58849 - 03/28/06 12:19 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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DOJ also bought his second Emo used, and I'm not sure what he paid for it - if he got a good deal on the used unit, that may have been a factor in his decision to move back to the Emo.

The Emotiva is at a significantly different price point than the 990, and the two offer different things. The only reason the two are likely to be deemed "competitors" is that both are sold from online-only companies. With the general parity of feature sets (a comparison method where the 990 actually has the advantage), the Emotiva needs to bring something extra to the table sonically. How much of an extra something is there I can't say - although as good as the 990 is, we are already moving into the domain of diminishing returns.
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#58850 - 03/29/06 09:44 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
drunkonjack Offline
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Registered: 09/16/05
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Loc: Iowa 52732
The 990 is an incredible Pre/Pro and I can't say one bad thing about it . I just happened to like the sound of the DMC-1 better . I'm not sure these ought to even be compared , With the price difference .

I cannot think of one Pre/Pro out there in the price range of the 990 that could do what the 990 is capable of . I could and would recommend this 990 to anyone looking for a processor in this price range .

Bottom line is these are both very serious performers . There was no loser , I just had a little more money to spend , Thats all wink
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#58851 - 11/03/06 03:30 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
Gman25 Offline
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Registered: 03/23/06
Posts: 12
Why did you like the EMO better?

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#58852 - 11/06/06 11:26 PM Re: Secrets Reviews new Emotiva DMC -1 / MPS-1 Pre/Pro & Amp
mktheater Offline
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Registered: 07/17/06
Posts: 59
Loc: NY
I returned my DMC-1. Did not like the sound compared to my Meridian. I have the 990 but can't listen to it until my amp is returned. Will let evryone know soon.

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