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#52390 - 05/01/05 04:52 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Yes, losing that black than black info in some players going from HDMI to DVI is a chip problem. I would imagine that would be fixed in future hardware. With the caveats that, a) how long did it take the industry to completely address the chroma bug? b) As most displays now come with HDMI instead of DVI inputs, I don't know how motivated the hardware people will be to actually fix it anyway.
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#52391 - 05/02/05 03:42 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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The next display that I was starting to like is the Samsung HL-R6768W which has no DVI input . Although component is still there, and it has Firewire (iLink). This missing feature may be a stumbling block for me as well.
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#52392 - 05/02/05 03:44 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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Sorry, trigger happy.
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#52393 - 05/02/05 03:52 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
Cliff Watson Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by MeanGene:
The next display that I was starting to like is the Samsung HL-R6768W which has no DVI input . Although component is still there, and it has Firewire (iLink). This missing feature may be a stumbling block for me as well.
Why would it be a "stumbling block" when it actually has two HDMI inputs that also support DVI?

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#52394 - 05/02/05 03:59 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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From what I could find, it only has 1 HDMI input, but as Cliff says that's still not a problem that I can tell. If you have a DVI source (or want to use the 990's DVI switching), all you need is an adapter to switch from DVI to HDMI. Or are you talking about a missing feature (perhaps IEEE-1394) on the 990?
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#52395 - 05/02/05 04:04 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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The key word is "Maybe" - No transcoding from the Outlaw to DVI. Maybe that means I won't be able to see the OSD on screen, not sure. There maybe problems with using an adapter and the resulting display quality. I guess time will tell, there are some unknowns here that may hinder me from replacing a perfectly good 950.
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#52396 - 05/02/05 04:22 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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We'll know more once folks start using the 990, of course - including if certain brands of adapters cause problems, although the only problem I would anticipate would be with bad adapters (which would also create problems in a straight connection between DVI and HDMI). I haven't heard of any such "problem child" adapters on the market, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there. Plus, the arrival of the 990 certainly does not somehow magically flip a switch that makes 950's obsolete. smile Waiting a couple months to decide whether or not to upgrade won't cause your 950 to spontaneously combust in the equipment rack in protest, after all...

I think it goes without saying that you won't get OSD on the DVI output - the switching appears to be equivalent to the 950's component switching, with nothing done to the video signal except switching between two inputs.
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#52397 - 05/02/05 04:40 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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Quote:
Originally posted by gonk:
From what I could find, it only has 1 HDMI input, but as Cliff says that's still not a problem that I can tell. If you have a DVI source (or want to use the 990's DVI switching), all you need is an adapter to switch from DVI to HDMI. Or are you talking about a missing feature (perhaps IEEE-1394) on the 990?
gonk,

Here is a picture of the connector panel. Notice one of the HDMI inputs is marked (DVI).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=5554765&fullpage=1

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#52398 - 05/02/05 04:50 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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Cool - all I could find was the CNET page (didn't turn anything up at Samsung's site), and CNET indicated a single HDMI input. The picture is quite a bit more informative. smile
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#52399 - 05/02/05 05:02 PM Re: Why I will take a pass for now
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gonk,

I think the CNET person got confused with the new 720p model that does have a single HDMI input.

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