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#49631 - 06/19/01 09:46 PM Re: The Great DSP Debate
Bill_R Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 1
Loc: Palatine, IL
No DSPs!!
I've never heard a DSP that didn't distort the sound. Looking forward to Pro Logic II though.

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#49632 - 06/19/01 09:48 PM Re: The Great DSP Debate
mdanderson Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 161
Loc: Garland,Tx. USA
I vote thumbs down on the DSP modes. For me these modes don't really add anything of much significance to the overall enjoyment of music or HT. I would rather see some other feature of more importance in its place.

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#49633 - 06/19/01 09:54 PM Re: The Great DSP Debate
Chris Lana Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 1
Loc: Oak Hill, VA, USA
At this time, my interests is solely DPL II.

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#49634 - 06/19/01 11:46 PM Re: The Great DSP Debate
fchu Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 03/29/01
Posts: 1
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I think with the availability of processing power these days, the pre/pro should provide 5 channel equalization and some base eq. This would help greatly in the room taming aspect of setup. And if one does not wish to use it, just flatten it.

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#49635 - 06/20/01 12:04 AM Re: The Great DSP Debate
Rob Braden Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 1
Loc: Nashville, TN. USA
I sure wouldn't use any DSP modes other than DPLII. So I guess I vote no - why clutter the interface?

Rob

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#49636 - 06/20/01 12:04 AM Re: The Great DSP Debate
Craig Robertson Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/20/01
Posts: 1
no DSP modes for me.

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#49637 - 06/20/01 12:08 AM Re: The Great DSP Debate
mjabel Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 1
Loc: Stanford, CA
I vote NO the DSP modes you mentioned (Hall, Stadium), but I would like to see some non-DSP surround modes like a mono mode that sends all of the sound to the center channel and a party mode that sends the same signal to all of the speakers.

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#49638 - 06/20/01 01:50 AM Re: The Great DSP Debate
Gil Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/20/01
Posts: 1
Loc: MA
YES.

DSP modes such as 5 channel stereo have been a deciding factor for a number of individuals debating between two products where the standard decoding formats (DD, DTS,etc) are essentially equivalent in performance. It would behoove you to not put these modes in if cost were not an issue.

Your product will no doubt compete with new pre/pro (or receiver as pre/pro) units from Sherwood/Newcastle and Sony ES, among others. The Sherwood will no doubt have the minimalist DSP approach perhaps more similar to the Outlaw if the Nays have it, while the Sony will have DSPs to the max. The interesting thing about the Sony DSP is that although there are numerous modes, many of which are quite useless, the Sony Cinema Studio EX modes are quite good. These modes can be applied to DPL, DTS and DD material with effective results. On DPL material the Studio modes are particularly effective IMO and it will be very interesting to see how DPL II compares. Where the level of effect may be adjusted to the nth degree on the Sony, what level of adjustment will there be with DPL II? I suspect that you get what you get.

I have heard the watered down H/K Logic7 (aka Logic5) and while it is better than 95% of the DSPs out there, I much prefer the Sony Studio modes. Also the fact that you cannot apply the H/K Logic5 to DD/DTS material and where the Sony ES could and do it effectively was a deciding factor in my purchase decision to select the Sony product over the H/K. Of course the Lexicon Logic7 is another story but it is at a very different price point.

Four channel music and movie (ie phantom)modes are also quite useful for those that don't have "equal" or matching center and front main speakers as well as those without a center. A four channel music mode similar to Sony's Live House has the desirable effect of preserving the stereo imaging from the front with a more expansive soundfield created by the inclusion of the rears. Again the level of effect and reverb is adjustable to suit ones taste.

My teenager also likes the Stadium/Arena modes. In their words "Mad Cool".

I also believe that most HTers will not discount a product altogether if it has the DSP modes. Just please don't make us cycle thru all fifty of them to switch from stereo to DPL II on the remote.

Good luck with your product intro,
Gil

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#49639 - 06/20/01 02:19 AM Re: The Great DSP Debate
crashball Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 04/19/01
Posts: 2
Nope, never use them

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#49640 - 06/20/01 01:42 PM Re: The Great DSP Debate
rickfav Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 06/20/01
Posts: 1
Loc: Montreal
Yes

I see no problem if it doesn't affect the final cost. I never used the DSP on my old yammie. However since upgrading to matched speakers I have found the 1050 natural and phantom modes quite pleasant, under certain conditions.

Rick Favreau

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