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#4887 - 01/20/07 02:47 PM 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
Mike Hill Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
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Loc: Carmel, CA
I am having an issue where my LF and LR rear speakers are playing intermittently. All other speakers are playing as normal. I have had the system setup and playing with no issues for several years. I have tried switching sources and surround modes and still have the issue. I have checked the speaker connections and have "reset" the receiver per the instructions in the owner’s manual and still have the problem. Sometimes all speakers play and sometimes the LF and LR do not.

Mike

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#4888 - 01/26/07 11:32 AM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
RedSIinPA Offline
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perhaps you might try swapping in your surrounds or another pair of speakers you might own in to isolate the problem? Rare as having issues with two speakers at once may seem, I had this happen once.
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#4889 - 02/09/07 09:22 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
KoolaidMan Offline
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Registered: 02/09/07
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Loc: Houston,TX
I also lost my LF and LR channels this week. I've had my receiver now since '02 and never a problem before. Can someone tell me what's causing the loss of audio? I too have tried different sources and nothing fixes the problem. I did notice, however, that the Power-on relay clicked prior to losing audio. In fact, the click heard when you first power up the system was clicking radomly when the receiver was already powered up (this has been happening for months but I thought it was my TV set). I'm interested in knowing what other's have found once they took their 1050's in for repairs. Thanks smile

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#4890 - 02/10/07 09:00 AM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
Mike Hill Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
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Loc: Carmel, CA
I spoke to Scott at Outlaw regarding this issue and he seems to think that its due to a faulty output relay, an $80 repair.

Regards,
Mike

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#4891 - 02/10/07 06:07 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
silversport Offline
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My buddy told me yesterday his 1050 has just started to do this...he says if he taps the top it comes back on for a bit but then goes off...$80 for the part??? Would he get it from the Outlaws or can the part be picked up elsewhere or does it need to go to the Mothership???
Thanks,
Bill
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#4892 - 02/10/07 08:55 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
gonk Offline
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I think the $80 is for parts and service - not just the parts in question.
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#4893 - 02/11/07 09:06 AM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
silversport Offline
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gonk,
thanks for the info...I will have him contact customer service...
Bill
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#4894 - 12/02/08 02:25 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
Ian Kennedy Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: athens, ga
Quote:
Originally posted by silversport:
My buddy told me yesterday his 1050 has just started to do this...he says if he taps the top it comes back on for a bit but then goes off...
I have this exact same problem. LF and LR go out after the 1050 has been on for a bit. Tapping the top brings them back.

Has anyone figured out a way to fix this without sending it in?

Thanks, Ian

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#4895 - 12/06/08 11:15 AM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
desperado Offline
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Registered: 09/06/02
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Loc: Hawaii
I think I may have this issue also. Just sent in the support request. I only have three speakers hooked up right now, FR, FL and center. Just before the speaker goes out I hear a click which sounds like the click you hear when you put the unit in standby or power on from standby. After a while it clicks again and the speaker starts working again.

Has anyone had this repair done? How was the result?
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#4896 - 12/07/08 11:53 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
Jason J Offline
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Registered: 09/02/02
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Loc: Northern Garden State
To me, this issue sounds like you have a short with your speaker cable. Tapping the unit moves it enough to stop the short from sending the unit into protection, which is why it clicks off. I would try reconnecting all of your speaker connections and then seeing if you have the same problem. Even a little strand of wire touching the wrong connection can cause a short.

I know this is not the same solution as above but you may want to try it first as to rule out all options before sending it back. Good luck!

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#4897 - 12/28/08 11:42 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
wheaton Offline
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Registered: 11/25/06
Posts: 2
Loc: California
I have had a similar intermittent lost LF channel issue after the receiver has been operating for an hour or so. The relay click occurs, then the LF channel cuts out. I have discovered that when that occurs, I can get the channel to return, every time, by mechanically pushing down (with the cover off)on one of the 10000uf electrolytic caps on the mother board. From this symptom I have deduced that the problem is a cold solder joint on the area of the capacitor. I have not figured out how to get to the bottom of the mother board so I can scope it out and fix it.

My amp sits at ear level to my immediate left so the temp-fix is easier than finding the bad connection.

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#4898 - 05/02/09 04:24 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
johnleppert Offline
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Registered: 04/30/09
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA
I have a similar problem. My issues involves the FR channel which cuts in and out after an audible click. Anyone have any experience with the repair and how durable the repair is, or if more channels tend to become involved over time?

PS I would love to have Outlaw come out with the next integrated receiver with HDMI switching. I love the idea of a high quality budget integrated receiver. I love my 1050 and would by the next version in a heartbeat. Any news from the saloon on timing for the 1070 replacement?

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#4899 - 06/10/09 03:13 AM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue
jamst174 Offline
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Registered: 05/26/08
Posts: 26
This has now just started happening to me now. I hate to complain because it has lasted me 7 years, but there does seem to be a pattern here.

Does this need to be sent back to Outlaw for repair or are there other options?
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#83086 - 03/22/10 03:05 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Jason J]
dantethedog Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
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I just started having this same problem. I thought it was a short, but after rehooking up the receiver I continued to have the same problem.

I have owned the 1050 for probably 8 or 9 years and never had any problems till now.

Is there a fix for this?

I bang on the receiver when the center channel goes out and that works. But some times the whole receiver switches off.

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#83166 - 03/30/10 11:00 AM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: dantethedog]
psklenar Offline
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I've had a similar issue with my 1050 ... but I've been running in stereo mode driving a pair of M200's, so what's happening to me is either of the front channels will cut out - usually the left, although occasionally the right will go. I never tried (thought of) the "pressure" trick, although I have had my 1050 opened up many times over the years. However, I've found that increasing the volume will always bring it back.

I typically run at a volume of "28" or so. If I increase the volume to 40 or sometimes 50, the missing speaker will come back to life.

*Very* rarely I've had both cut out and at those times, I can tell that they're not totally dead, but that there's actually the sound IS there, it's just at a very, very low volume.

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#87738 - 09/10/11 05:04 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: psklenar]
Eric-303 Offline
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Registered: 12/06/04
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Add me to the list. For the past month or so I've been having this issue with the center channel speaker cutting out and hearing an audible click. I chalked it up to wires shorting and dreaded dismantling my system and hooking it all back up. I did exactly that today and within 30 minutes the problem continued. Sorry to say but for the cost of the repair I might as well go to Best Buy or Fry's and get a $179 Pioneer or Denon that has HDMI switching and support for all the recent audio codecs. I guess it was great while it lasted even though it also suffered from the dreaded faulty volume knob issue after only one year.

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#87741 - 09/11/11 11:30 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Eric-303]
J_Alex Offline
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Registered: 08/20/10
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Loc: Albuquerque, NM
I bought my 1050 used 2 years ago. It lasted a year before the left front started cutting out. My solution was an external power amp (Parasound HCA1000A) hooked up to the pre-outs. This has added another year of use so far. The center & surround channels are still good.

Jim
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#87744 - 09/12/11 04:32 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: J_Alex]
Eric-303 Offline
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The clicking isn't driving you batty?

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#87747 - 09/12/11 07:09 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Eric-303]
XenonMan Offline
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It might not click if the amps are not working. I had a Sony which had the same issue after 8 years of service. It would get hot then click, the sound was out. Minutes later it would click and back to normal. I put it down to a weak relay or an intermittent solder joint problem.
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#87751 - 09/13/11 01:17 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Eric-303]
J_Alex Offline
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Registered: 08/20/10
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Originally Posted By: Eric-303
The clicking isn't driving you batty?


No clicking, the front speakers are connected to the Parasound, not the 1050.

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#90185 - 04/27/12 07:14 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Jason J]
Mojo Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
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I am contemplating a second repair to fix the right channel cutting-out intermittently. It was repaired the first time in January 2006. The receiver was purchased in January 2002. Another repair would be the third time that the unit was shipped from Oregon to the east coast.

It is interesting to see a mention of a volume control problem. My 1050 had the volume control "fixed" in 2006 but the problem is about the same as it has always been...


Edited by Mojo (04/28/12 12:01 AM)

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#92181 - 12/29/12 01:43 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Mike Hill]
psklenar Offline
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I've been offline for a while and was just looking at my old posts and saw this one ... the problem turned out to be with the M200 amps, not the Model 1050 ... the amps were full of dust and were over heating. frown
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#92238 - 01/03/13 07:00 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Mike Hill]
Logansneo Offline
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Registered: 11/16/03
Posts: 67
Loc: San Jose, Ca. USA
I've got a fix for my 1050's left channel dropouts and it's simple! It involves a call to Outlaw, a credit card, and a 975/7125 combo purchase! See, fixed!!!
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#92241 - 01/03/13 07:26 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Mike Hill]
EEman Offline
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Is there nothing those little plastic cards can't fix?

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#92438 - 01/19/13 06:51 PM Re: 1050 Intermittent Speaker Issue [Re: Mike Hill]
Logansneo Offline
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Registered: 11/16/03
Posts: 67
Loc: San Jose, Ca. USA
Sadly, they seem to cause nearly as many problems as they tend to fix! wink
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DefTech Mythos 3 center
Modified Pyle 3" 2-way cube speakers side surround
Insignia 3" 2-way bookshelf surround back
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