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#48006 - 06/01/03 09:35 AM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
DaleB Offline
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Registered: 11/15/02
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Loc: Clovis, CA,US
I also have had very good luck with a Panamax unit. I have an older 1000+ model that removes input power in the case of excessively high, or excessively low line voltage. It does not rely solely on sacrificial components.
In addition, provides an accurate multi-LED line voltage monitor display, and delayed turn-on/off power outlets.
Whether you believe in improved sound from conditioners or not, a unit like this provides a minimum amount of protection every A/V system should have IMHO.

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#48007 - 06/01/03 11:25 AM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
MeanGene Offline
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Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 524
Loc: Simi Valley, CA, USA
In this Pebble Beach Home Theater they use a Panamax. So I guess they are good enough for my sub $600,000.00 system.

http://www.revolutionhometheater.com/gifs/virtualtours/pebblebeach/pulloutrack.jpg

I think line conditioners are a good thing, but I have my doubts on my ability to benefit from all of the claims noted above. My sound stage transforms into one that is "Huge" just by plugging in? I'm going to take the Missouri stand on this one.


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#48008 - 06/02/03 10:54 AM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
sigmachi25 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 23
Loc: Jax, Fla.
WoW - I have to ask - do you know what speakers this "Pebble Beach" system uses ?

Just curious as to what someone who apparently has price no object chose - although I guess the main lesson of the Outlaw Saloon is that more $$ does not necessarily mean better quality.

But it sure helps

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#48009 - 06/02/03 12:22 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
73Bruin Offline
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Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 506
Loc: Torrance, CA USA
I don't know what the Pebble Beach home uses, but here is a link to a money is no object system (at least I think so).

http://www.alonbyacarian.com/index2.htm
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#48010 - 06/02/03 02:38 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
sigmachi25 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
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Loc: Jax, Fla.
Just bought the Tripplite Isobar 8 as reccommended by Soundhound - for $60 - including shipping.

I'll report back - this looks like what I need, piece of mind that I can listen to my Outlaw when it's raining outside : )

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#48011 - 06/02/03 07:06 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
Dane Offline
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Registered: 03/20/03
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I love my Panamax 5100 but I cannot say I noticed a difference in my systems performance. For me, it is worth it's price protecting my system from bad power.

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#48012 - 06/03/03 04:39 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
SpOoNmAn Offline
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Registered: 04/06/02
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Loc: Independence, Ohio, USA!!
I also have the panamax 5100's, 2 for each line I have running into the theatre room. I am very happy with them and with these, ya get what you pay for.

Like others have said..the peace of mind alone is worth the price

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#48013 - 06/06/03 11:57 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
master of disaster Offline
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Registered: 06/27/01
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I posted awhile back that I read that it's not a good idea to use computer surge protectors for audio devices because they tend to limit current and distort the sound-I have tested this theory with a few products and found it to be true.I own panamax 1500 and if you research I think you will also find that panamax is probably the best of the surge protectors-performance wise and protection wise-I read that someone accidently plugged their panamax surge protector into a 220v outlet and it protected their equipment(although the surge protector did die).I suspect that if you did that with a monster surge protector your equipment would fry.I think you'll find with research that panamax uses higher quality components inside.If I had alot more money I would buy the exactpower power producers for better system performance or my second choice would be the psaudio powerplants(although they use lots of power,run hot,and make a small amount of noise sometimes,which would not be good for my small room).

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#48014 - 06/10/03 09:29 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
MeanGene Offline
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Registered: 06/10/02
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Loc: Simi Valley, CA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by master of disaster:
I read that someone accidently plugged their panamax surge protector into a 220v outlet and it protected their equipment(although the surge protector did die).



I absolutely agree with your comments about the Panamax, but I have to disagree with the article you read. I am not an electrician, but I think that the plug ends of a 220 circuit are different and incompatible with a 110 circuit. Meaning - it would be impossible to plug a 110v properly wired cable into a 220v receptacle.

In my own experience I had a tweeter/midrange fuse blow in one of my rear speakers. The Panamax 5300 shut down the entire system, protecting the components and speakers.

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#48015 - 06/10/03 10:30 PM Re: Power Line Conditioners - science or scam ?
zakman Offline
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Registered: 02/03/02
Posts: 52
Loc: East Bernard, TX USA
That is assuming that the correct elecrical codes were followed. I have seen 110v plugs running 220v!
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