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#47280 - 07/29/03 10:38 AM Re: Phono Equip. ???
Philip Hamm Offline
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Registered: 08/29/01
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Loc: Northern Virginia, USA
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I'm willing to spend about $1,500 on a TT and cartridge but am getting the feeling I might as well save my money and go cheaper.
Wow!! If you're not interested in "audiophile" sound as you infer in your original post, you should be able to get by for under $300 easily. Get yourself a good low end Technics turntable and a phono preamp from Rat Shack and you're good to go.

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#47281 - 07/29/03 11:38 PM Re: Phono Equip. ???
southpark Offline
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Registered: 07/15/03
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Phill, of course I want audiophile sound and I'm willing to spend up to $1,500 for a TT/cartidge to get it.

What I don't want to do is spend $1,500 for equipment when it won't sound any better than $300 kit given my record selection.

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#47282 - 07/30/03 12:22 AM Re: Phono Equip. ???
Kevin C Brown Offline
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You just have to be diligent and do some research...
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#47283 - 07/30/03 01:55 AM Re: Phono Equip. ???
73Bruin Offline
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Registered: 01/01/03
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Loc: Torrance, CA USA
Ok. I would like to go back to my point from above. My objectives are to be able to record on CD or DVD a number of albums that I have that were in excellent shape when put into storage (where at least they haven't been abused). This should hopefully be a one time activity per album.

I have a decent turntable and tonearm. I need to get a new cartridge and phono preamp and if I record to a computer a new sound card. Does anyone have specific recommendations for this equipment?
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#47284 - 07/30/03 02:00 AM Re: Phono Equip. ???
southpark Offline
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Registered: 07/15/03
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Phill, of course I want audiophile sound and I'm willing to spend up to $1,500 for a TT/cartidge to get it.

What I don't want to do is spend $1,500 for equipment when it won't sound any better than $300 kit given my record selection.

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#47285 - 07/30/03 03:48 AM Re: Phono Equip. ???
Time_Stands_Still Offline
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Registered: 05/19/03
Posts: 20
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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Originally posted by southpark:
Phill, of course I want audiophile sound and I'm willing to spend up to $1,500 for a TT/cartidge to get it.

What I don't want to do is spend $1,500 for equipment when it won't sound any better than $300 kit given my record selection.



Hi for $1500 you can set yourself up with some nice units from companies like

Rega
Clear audio
Music Hall
Thorens
Basis

http://www.musicalsurroundings.com/basis.html
http://www.clearaudio.de/res1/start.html
http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm
http://www.thorens.com/

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#47286 - 07/30/03 04:01 AM Re: Phono Equip. ???
OFCCM Offline
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Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 84
Loc: Hueytown, Al. 35023
And don't forget Project for both tables and phono stages. Also Moth which is using Rega tables and arms via a deal with Rega. Go a bit more and get a VPI Scout.

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#47287 - 07/30/03 04:29 PM Re: Phono Equip. ???
sdurani Offline
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Registered: 01/23/02
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Loc: Monterey Park, CA
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#47288 - 08/23/03 11:05 PM Re: Phono Equip. ???
Jeff Mackwood Offline
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Registered: 12/19/02
Posts: 427
An update on the click and pop noise reducers...

After seeing BillP's post following mine, I went onto ebay and picked up an SAE model 5000A "Impulse Noise Reduction System" for $61.05. It arrived a couple of days ago and I installed it yesterday.

I picked out a couple of albums that I knew had very noticeable clicks and pops and it "cleaned" them up completely - without noticeable effect on the music.

It has an "invert" button that you use to calibrate the gain setting. With the invert engaged you start at zero gain (no sound at all) and turn it up slowly. You start to hear some clicks and pops at about 25% gain and by the time you get near max gain you hear lots - plus some chopped music. Back the setting down more than a bit from there (I settled in at 50%), switch off the invert function, and all you hear is the music, less the clicks and pops. Works like a charm.

I tracked down a review in the June 1977 issue of Audio. It was helpful in understanding the operation of the unit (since mine came with no manual) and the fact that it should be presented with a reasonably high input level in order to achieve its outstanding signal-to-noise ratio of 96dB. (Remember, this was 1977!) Because of the way I've plugged my phono set-up into my Model 950 (turntable / Stanton 681EEE...NAD1130 pre-amp...dynamic range enhancer...SAE 5000A...Outlaw 950) I have lots of opportunity to boost the input to the SAE.

To conclude. It works like a charm, removes virtually all noticeable clicks and pops, and when set up properly does nothing to negatively impact on the sound.

A must have for anyone wanting to play vinyl that's in less than perfect condition.

Jeff Mackwood
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#47289 - 08/24/03 08:30 PM Re: Phono Equip. ???
southpark Offline
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Registered: 07/15/03
Posts: 36
Thanks Jeff, I'll track one down myself.

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